Delivery-Agent: @(#)$Id: local.c,v 1.54 1998/10/30 06:30:53 akira1 Exp $ on adam Received: by j.xx.or.jp (ATSON-1) ; 4 Feb 2000 22:03:04 +0900 Return-Path: Received: from lancer.xx.or.jp (lancer.xx.or.jp [202.224.39.3]) by trantula.xx.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) with ESMTP id WAA21730 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:03:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from ml.xx.or.jp (ml.xx.or.jp [202.224.39.111]) by lancer.xx.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40A948EF for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:03:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by ml.xx.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) with SMTP id WAA36416; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:00:22 +0900 Received: by ml.xx.or.jp; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:00:21 +0900 Received: (from ml@localhost) by ml.xx.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) id WAA26382 for baren-digest-outgoing; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:00:21 +0900 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:00:21 +0900 Message-Id: <200002041300.WAA26382@ml.xx.or.jp> From: owner-baren@ml.xx.or.jp To: baren@ml.xx.or.jp Subject: Baren Digest V10 #890 Reply-To: baren@ml.xx.or.jp Errors-To: owner-baren@ml.xx.or.jp Precedence: bulk [Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Sender: owner-baren-digest@ml.xx.or.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by trantula.xx.or.jp id WAA21730 X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 Baren Digest Friday, 4 February 2000 Volume 10 : Number= 890 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 08:43:52 EST Subject: [Baren 8179] Re: Baren Digest V10 #888=20 I ordered a tool from Harrelson Stanley, and was very disappointed w/the=20 quality of it - the handle was very long, and it seemed shoddy compared t= o=20 tools I've gotten from McClain's which have a shorter handle and have the= =20 ability to replace the blade (I also saw similar tools from McClain's whi= ch=20 were much cheaper than Stanley's). I also got a couple of sharpening sto= nes=20 from Harrelson & these seem OK. He's a friendly enough guy and is willin= g to=20 send you stuff for you to try & send back if you don't like it, so I had = no=20 problem returning the tool at least. Anyway, I'd opt for the type of too= ls=20 from McClain's where you can change the blades. It's early so I'm a little incoherent, hope this makes sense. Sarah Mary said: <> ------------------------------ From: "Jean Eger" Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 05:41:37 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8180] Need replacement for Exchange #5 charset=3D"iso-885= 9-1"=20 Dear Bareners, Well, it is the third week of my student teaching and I am ready to surrender to the fact that I don't have enough time to print 30 prints fo= r the Baren exchange. If there is someone out there who wants to take my place in Exchange #5, please letl me know. You'll be pleased to know tha= t I did get an "outstanding" in preparedness. Jean Eger ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:37:45 -0500 Subject: [Baren 8181] Roll Up? charset=3D"iso-8859-1"=20 I think it was Ayre and someone else (sorry, I forgot who you are), that asked "What do you mean by roll up"? This was in reference to my Self Portrait print. (In the explanation) I wanted several colors to meld together for the sky as the title was Florida Sunset. I am an oily person (Marias clever way of saying that she uses oil based inks), so I placed my first color, yellow on my sheet of glass, then unde= r that I placed a batch of orange, then under that a shade of purple, then = a shade of blue and then green. I brought out 5 smallish rollers . I procee= ded to roll out the first color on my block, then picked up a clean roller fo= r the second color, allowing the two to touch and bleed,and on to the last color. l know there is a name for this but I just call it a roll up in my jargon. I am doing a new one for the next exchange in a very similar way. It crea= tes an interesting effect. Hope this explains the process. Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:09:50 -0500 Subject: [Baren 8182] Re: new image charset=3D"iso-8859-1"=20 Maria Wow, what an energetic print. Love the minimal colors and the movement is great. Sometimes I look at my blocks after I have printed them and if it = is not a reduction block, it looks better than the print. I think I will put them up side by side and end by end in my workroom. Would you ever sell a block? I had someone wanting to buy one last year. I hate to deface the block but I guess that is what we are supposed to do. I read somewhere that you can carve your name or initials in the block, s= o if someone, someday went to print it, the name or initials would be backw= ard ------------------------------ From: B Mason Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 13:13:58 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8183] Dr Gilkey=20 Hello to all, This note is to inform everyone that Dr Gordon Gilkey of the Portland Art Museum has come through his surgery for colon cancer with flying colors and is home from the hospital needing no further treatment. If you know Gordon and would like to send him a card, please do so, send to: Dr. Gordon Gilkey Gilkey Center Portland Art Museum 1219 SE Park Portland, OR 97205 Gordon is an amazing man and has spent most of his 87 years promoting printmaking in one way or another. We fully expect him to go on forever. We are taking turns bringing him dinner so he is not too lonely, but I am sure he would appreciate a card. Best to all, Barbara Mason Portland, OR ------------------------------ From: patsy giclas Date: 03 Feb 00 14:25:54 -0700 Subject: [Baren 8184] new studio=20 Hi all. I'm glad the dust has settled somewhat. As a newcomer to the =3D group, the furor has been a bit unsettling. =3D I appreciate the responses that I received regarding the studio we are =3D designing. Among the several bits of information were some requests to =3D know more about me and the project in general, so I will try to fill you = =3D in without, I hope, overdoing it. I have worked as an immunologist for =3D the last 30 years, and have been the director of a clinical laboratory =3D that specializes in very esoteric testing for the last 15 years. I have = =3D always been interested in art and have kept up a productive side-line of = =3D painting, drawing and slik-screen printing along with everything else. I= n =3D the past 3-4 years, I have become more interested in relief printing =3D methods and particularly in color reduction woodblock printing --- suicid= e =3D blocks! I do SouthWest landscapes as well as more abstract stuff (I grew= =3D up in New Mexico). I don't have a web page, but if you want a sample, I = =3D designed the logo for an upcoming meeting that can be viewed at: http:/= /=3D conferences.utah.edu/complement/index.html. The molecule represented is = =3D one of the ones we study in our lab, obviously changed a bit from nature!= ! =3D I am also grandmother to 4 great kids! The studio: I have been working in a dark basement room that has been =3D pretty frustrating because when I finally bring things out into the light= =3D the colors are all wrong. I'm sure you've been there! Thus the plan to = =3D build a studio at our house. We are starting from scratch. The plan as = =3D it stands now, is for a 2-story tall building on a descending slope north= =3D of the current house and facing away from the house. The lot is 5 acres,= =3D so we have plenty of room. The 2-story side on the north would be mostly= =3D windows some of which could be opened for ventilation. There will be a =3D loft along the south wall that will open into a 1-story garage/workshop =3D where my husband can do his auto-mechanical things. The garage will face= =3D the house across the driveway, and be on the same level as our current =3D garage. Under the garage part at the back of the studio will be room for= =3D a bathroom and a fairly large closet. Right now I am just thinking to pu= t =3D 18 inch shelving up in there. I will put a sink in the studio, and =3D probably a corner near the back (the dark part) will hold a fume hood for= =3D etching plates and other toxic pursuits. One advantage of working in a =3D lab for years is access to used lab equipment, so that's where I hope to = =3D find a hood that isn't too yucky to deal with. I like the work-table cum= =3D flat-files in your studio, Graham. I have had the best luck cutting =3D blocks on my drafting table with the top tilted just slightly. I wonder = =3D what sort of drying racks people have had the best luck with? I have use= d =3D some that were hinged on one side and made out of pipe and fencing wire =3D with about a 4 inch square pattern. What about rusting and transfer of =3D rust to prints? =3D I've probably gone on too long. Thanks for your time and I'd enjoy =3D hearing more tips. =3D Patsy ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:29:03 -0600 Subject: [Baren 8185] Fritz Eichenberg exhibit=20 I got this today in a message from fellow Baren member Sharen Linder and not knowing who else is here from our neck of the woods.....I thought I share this part with all........ ".....Today I went to the Fritz Eichenberg show at the Washington Library downtown--the one that looks like Disney was on the architectural committee--and I really couldn't help but let you know that you should make every effort to get down there to see it. Sadly it closes either on Saturday or Sunday, but I think Saturday. It's on the 9th floor, take escalators to 3 and then take the elevator. There's a lot of parking around there, so that part isn't hard. The web site for the Library is for more information. It is a breathtaking show of his prints, and it includes some of his blocks and tools, as well as some of his books. At the end of the show you may especially enjoy his New Years Cards, including a wonderful dragon. You truly learn so much by viewing his eloquent cuts, and his transitions from dark to light. Some prints are woodcuts, some are wood engravings. It is a powerful show and I recommend that you make a point of trying to see it.........." This is a show I won't miss. He is my alltime favorite along with Kathe Kollwitz. If you are nearby and plan to go see this....check out the library hours= first, the exhibit closes Sunday 02/06. Now......where is my video camera..... Thanks....Julio For more info on the exhibit.....go here: http://www.chipublib.org/003cpl/exhib/witness.html ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:15:56 EST Subject: [Baren 8186] Re: Fritz Eichenberg exhibit=20 In a message dated 02/03/2000 2:31:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com writes: > www.chipublib.org julio id like to see more of mr. eichenberg's work do you know o= f=20 any web sites that i can look at?=20 thanks =20 georga ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:38:39 -0600 Subject: [Baren 8187] Re: More Fritz Eichenberg=20 Hi Georga All I had to do was to go to "favorites" url's on my browser....here are = some : http://www.desert.net/ww/10-13-97/nash_8-art.html (this one talks abou= t the same exhibit now in Chicago) http://sheldon.unl.edu/HTML/ARTIST/Eichenberg_F/April_AS.html http://www.library.yale.edu/NotaBene/nbxii1/reynard.htm http://www.library.yale.edu/aob/eichlst.htm (including a long list of= works) http://chemistry.csudh.edu/oliver/turgenev.htm http://www.w.com/encyclopedia/entries/011_01/011_01.html (p= lease note the source!) Enjoy......he was just a wonderful artist and human being.... Thanks..........Julio ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 19:27:27 EST Subject: [Baren 8188] Re: More Fritz Eichenberg=20 In a message dated 02/03/2000 3:41:33 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com writes: > http://www.w.com/encyclopedia/entries/011_01/011_01.html =20 julio thank you for these addresses mr eichenbergs work is a joy to look= at georga ------------------------------ From: inklinepress@inetnebr.com (Jaime) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 19:55:18 -0600 Subject: [Baren 8189] using damp japanese paper=20 Whenever I have dampened japanese paper whether for printing or chine col= le I moisten the paper with a damp slipsheet behind (or on top of the print) rather than dampening the paper directly. It is much easier to handle th= at way. But I am refering to printing with a typical etching press. Jaime ------------------------------ From: Maria Arango Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 19:02:27 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8190] Re: selling a block=20 Jeanne, I usually put up the blocks up by my prints when I go to an art fair and I have a couple up in the gallery here in Vegas. In art fairs, they attract people to touch them; they like to run their fingers through the cuts and they seem to appreciate my prints more after seeing the cuts on the wood. As far as selling them, I put an outrageous price tag on them. That way if I sell them I won't feel so bad letting them go. I had a gentleman, a fellow artist, say that he wanted to buy one of my blocks and print t-shirts from it. I replied he could have the block for $4,000 and he would have to sign a legal contract in order to use the image, plus pay me royalties. He of course declined! What nerve... I hang them up in the house, or stack them in the studio. Even the reduction blocks. Maria - -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maria Arango, Printmaker The Printmaking Studio http://www.printmakingstudio.com <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: "David Stones" Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:43:36 +0900 Subject: [Baren 8191] Re: selling a block charset=3D"shift_jis"=20 Dear All, There's a tourist centre in Kyoto that sells old (very chipped and worn) blocks for about \3,000 - \5,000 (\107=3DUS$1) but they saw them in half first! Another printer bores a large hold in the centre of his used (veneer) blocks and his Tokyo gallery sells them. This made me decide to return my used blocks to the forest out back... sometime in the future. Ishita (Dave S) ------------------------------ From: Vollmer/Yamaguchi Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:23:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Baren 8192] Smooth feathers=20 Julio, I think it's great if you are able to use the World Baren image fo= r the show announcement. When we showed the first exchange at Manhattan Graphics, it was a hit, too, representing the idea of Baren on the intern= et. I'm not sure how to separate promotion from sharing information, but I'm always glad to hear about class and exhibition opportunities and about people's exhibitions. In fact, I especially appreciated being able to buy those inexpensive Barens from Norobu through Graham, and that Yamaguchi paper was pretty great, too. On that note let me promote the website of my friend Susan Rostow, who ha= s developed a great monoprint ink that is also suitable for hanga. She wrot= e me: "If you are interested in learning more about the history of monotype and monoprint check out our new web site at: http://www.waterbasedinks.co= m. " And in support of the "sharp focus" theme, Barbara wrote: If I hold the T= o in my right hand like a fist and not like a pencil, I keep the straight side on the outside of the line? Hold it in your fist and PULL it toward you, with the bevel side toward t= he outside of the line (left side if you are right handed). Turn the block, not your hand, if you twist the To in the wood you can break the tip. A 4= .5 mm To seems a useful size. Best wishes to the Committee, thank you for all your hard work keeping us organized. April Vollmer 174 Eldridge St, NYC 10002, 212-677-5691 http://www.aprilvollmer.com ------------------------------ From: Arye Saar Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 06:36:24 +0200 Subject: [Baren 8193] Re: Roll Up?=20 Jeanne, It's "Iris". Arye ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeanne Norman Chase wrote: > I think it was Ayre and someone else (sorry, I forgot who you are), tha= t > asked "What do you mean by roll up"? This was in reference to my Self > Portrait print. (In the explanation) > I wanted several colors to meld together for the sky as the title was > Florida Sunset. > I am an oily person (Marias clever way of saying that she uses oil base= d > inks), so I placed my first color, yellow on my sheet of glass, then un= der > that I placed a batch of orange, then under that a shade of purple, the= n a > shade of blue and then green. I brought out 5 smallish rollers . I proc= eeded > to roll out the first color on my block, then picked up a clean roller = for > the second color, allowing the two to touch and bleed,and on to the la= st > color. > l know there is a name for this but I just call it a roll up in my jarg= on. > I am doing a new one for the next exchange in a very similar way. It cr= eates > an interesting effect. > Hope this explains the process. > Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: Dutch Stowe Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 20:40:16 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8194] WoW=20 Maria Wrote: Let me know what you think, will ya? Thanks, Maria Just looked at your new print all I have to say is WOW!!! particular afte= r you vivid description of what the wood looked like. Thank You Dutch Stowe North Hollywood Ca USA ------------------------------ From: Arafat Alnaim Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 21:24:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 8195] Re: new image=20 Good work Maria, I see that you have preserved the spirit of drawing. To have the freshness of sketch on a work is a good work. Greetings Arafat - --- Maria Arango wrote: > Thanks very much for your comments Graham, I do love > the figure, more so the > male figure (wonder why? :-) And I do wish I could > come by, here in Vegas there > is an off and on figure drawing workshop that does > not meet consistently enough > for my needs. Kind of a long drive, though! >=20 > Gayle Wohlken wrote: >=20 > > Maria, your print of the men is very nice. The > background color of the > > paper, then is the darker brown color? Did you > use white ink and black ink? > > > > Gayle >=20 > Yes, thanks, the background is the brown color. The > first state was to carve out > the mid-tone, since that was provided by the paper; > don't ever do that, it will > leave you dingy or is it dinguie, maybe both! Loca, > we say en Espa=F1a. I usually > carve the highlights without much guidance, but this > time I had to draw both the > line and the highlights to make sure I didn't mess > up. We just don't think "in > midtones." > First state, highlights, was a creamy white, there > is some gold ink mixed in > there also, but you can only see the pearlish > glitter when the light shines on > it. Second state, lines, was a mixture of burnt > umber, black and purple. What > remained is the color of the tobacco paper. >=20 > > Very nice, well drawn, nice line work, well > carved, and printed. Is that > > maple blocks for the color as well as the line > block? Looks like it holds > > fine lines a lot better than basswood. How was it > to carve and clear all > > that maple? > > > > Jack > > > Thanks Jack, yes, maple block for everything. To > tell you the truth, clearing > out that much maple was kind of a bear, but I have > some seriously large > u-chisels that got a heavy workout. It holds a very > fine line, I am so > delighted, and clears without splintering. I like it > so much I'm never going > back to birch ply (just as soon as I finish my > current stock). This plank wood > has allowed me to carve deeper so that I don't have > so much roller-residue > cleaning up to do before pulling a print. I do wish > cherry was easier for me to > get, but this maple may be a very viable substitute. > It also does seem just a > bit harder than cherry. > I just joined two 11" boards together to make a 22" > x 16" block, we will see how > that goes. Seemed to join very well, no discernible > seam. >=20 > Better get back to the grind, the lovely, lovely > grind! > Maria > -- > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Maria Arango, Printmaker > The Printmaking Studio > http://www.printmakingstudio.com > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:48:14 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8196] Re: selling a block=20 >As far as selling them, I put an outrageous price tag on them. That way >if I sell them I won't feel so bad letting them go. I had a gentleman, a >fellow artist, say that he wanted to buy one of my blocks and print >t-shirts from it. I replied he could have the block for $4,000 and he >would have to sign a legal contract in order to use the image, plus pay >me royalties. He of course declined! What nerve... >I hang them up in the house, or stack them in the studio. Even the >reduction blocks. Maria Exactly the way I handle enquiries about my plates. However I warn them that there will be dimples on the plate as I wack the= m with a hammer. They cast there eyes to the skys in disbelief Graham ------------------------------ From: =3D?iso-8859-1?q?dimitris=3D20grammatikopulos?=3D Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:36:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 8197] Drag-ons=20 Hello,Bareners! some 32 (or was it 33?) of you will get aprint of my little fire-breathin= g friend.They just flew out today by post. Some of you may receive a little extra! regards, Dimitris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V10 #890 ****************************