Baren Digest 1900 Volume 10 : Number 842 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Studio Dalwood Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 23:59:59 +1100 Subject: [Baren 7394] Happy New Year! Both John and I are on the same time zone, but I am much further east than him so unless we have a member in NZ I guess Im the first barener to greet the new year in. I'm logged on and will hold this post till a minute past midnight. Watch the time posted and Happy New Year and Bless you all! Josephine WOOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Maria Arango Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 11:15:27 -0800 Subject: [Baren 7395] numero tres Ooooh boy, Exchange #3 made it to LV today I'm stunned, proud, overwhelmed...what a beautiful collection! Congratulations everyone. Now let's all go back to the Baren archives to see what Baren conversations are supposed to look like. For instance, Jack and other conservation specialists: Is the typically brown wrapping paper that printing paper is shipped in, safe? I mean, can I leave my precious papers in it for extended periods of time without the acid traveling to the printing paper? Does acid travel from non-pH neutral surfaces to pH neutral surfaces? And most importantly, is pH spelled with a little p and a capital H or did I just make that up? Health to all, Maria ps Remember: Heart, humor and humility will lighten your heavy load.-- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maria Arango Maria@mariarango.com PrintmakingStudio/MArango Gallery http://www.printmakingstudio.com <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: "Philip Smith" Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 09:37:25 +0900 Subject: [Baren 7396] Re: Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:33:18 -0800 charset="iso-8859-1" Greg, I remember this other quote too, someplace in time and space,..Andy Loomis,..neat guy, talk about slick painting,...wow!!!!! Graham, thanks for the review of my Thai Kozo paper, I tend to agree with you,.....how about another one, paper that is,..Graham and anyone else,..Lenox 100,...it's again machine made, but pretty thick and 100% cotton, and very white, has anyone had experience with this sheet , it's real cheap, relatively speaking, Daniel Smith has it for $1 if you buy 25 sheets,......just a question,..no opinion......Thanks Philip ------------------------------ From: "John Ryrie" Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:38:21 +1100 Subject: [Baren 7397] Happy NewYear charset="iso-8859-1" Happy new year all there is at least one New Zealand member on the list and they got hear 2 hours before me. My computer ticked over to the 1st of January 2000 with out any trouble. If any planes are falling out of the sky none have so far hit my house. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse did come down at one stage, but when they realised that there were no hours troths in this street they went back home. Question: why is David's #4 print like a flock of sheep? This has to be something about 'chops', yes ? Again a happy new year, from the future John ------------------------------ From: "Philip Smith" Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:50:56 -0800 Subject: [Baren 7398] Re: purism vs therestofus charset="iso-8859-1" - -----Original Message----- From: Maria Arango To: Baren Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 11:54 AM Subject: [Baren 7355] purism vs therestofus Maria, you mentioned your Monster cut again,...about 12 to 15 years ago at Ft. Mason in San Francisco some guy did some "monster" prints, woodcuts, there must have been about 12 prints....he had this whole show, and what impressed me was the size of the paper he printed these things on,...4'by8',...I didn't like the prints to much, but where in the h- do you find paper this big,...and this wasn't glued up pieces either, at least I don't think so.....one big solid sheet,.....by the way, how's it going,...? Or maybe I should check back next Christmas[just joking].....good luck! Less than 9 hours folks! Philip ------------------------------ From: Jack Reisland Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 03:15:32 -1000 Subject: [Baren 7399] Re: numero tres Maria Arango wrote: > Is the typically > brown wrapping paper that printing paper is shipped in, safe? Probably not, unless it is acid free, If it you are not sure, it probably isn't. > I mean, > can I leave my precious papers in it for extended periods of time > without the acid traveling to the printing paper? Nope. > Does acid travel from > non-pH neutral surfaces to pH neutral surfaces? Yep. But it will probably only affect the outside sheets. Of course, if you always take one of the top, well, at least if you're using several at a time, only one will be affect one. And most importantly, that is pH, for pouvoir hydrogene, or hydrogen power. Jack ------------------------------ From: Brad Schwartz Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 17:36:11 -0800 Subject: [Baren 7400] Re: Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:33:18 -0800 on 12/31/1999 4:37 PM, Philip Smith at smithart@pacifier.com said: Hi... > else,..Lenox 100,...it's again machine made, but pretty thick and 100% > cotton, and very white, has anyone had experience with this sheet , it's > real cheap, relatively speaking, Daniel Smith has it for $1 if you buy 25 Lenox 100 is pretty good for litho, monotype and intaglio... it makes a great drawing paper too... it doesn't take long to dampen it if soaking for intaglio. I've never tried it with relief printing though. Anyone else use it relief? Brad - -- Brad Schwartz http://www.baschwar.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Bea Gold" Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:23:58 -0800 Subject: [Baren 7401] Y2K bug already? charset="iso-8859-1" We just came home to LA where it hasn't rained for months (from our condo in Encinitas)to put up the telescope and look at the HOLLYWOOD sign from our house -was going to be a big light show and Millenium celebration -and - it's pouring and the electricity has been out for hgours and it's too overcast to see the sign - what an end to the year - we still have 6 hours to go - maybe the lights will go on - maybe the air will clear and maybe we'll have our light show to start the new Millenium - what do you think? April, came home to your great dragon - love it. Tried to get paper at Hiromi's annual paper sale - I thought it started after Xmas but it starts on December 1st and ends the last work day in December not to start again for a year! I missed it - writing to you on my laptop with battery power and the house it lit with candles - Happy New year to all - Bea ------------------------------ From: B Mason Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:01:45 -0800 Subject: [Baren 7402] Re: numero tres Maria wrote: > For instance, Jack and other conservation specialists: Is the typically > brown wrapping paper that printing paper is shipped in, safe? Maria, the answer is no, do not store it in the brown paper, unless you wrap it first in a piece of interleaving or glassine or other archival acid free paper.Store away from light, of course, and since you are in the land of bugs,(or is that florida?) maybe an archival box for long term. I'm not sure about ph, but large or small, we know what you mean so does it matter? Barbara ------------------------------ From: Pedrobot@aol.com Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 21:48:10 EST Subject: [Baren 7403] Re: Please disregard last message I'm sure there will be 29 of these posts, but I got Exchange #3 in the mail today. It was the poudest moment of my, as yet, very short artistic career. To be able to participate in such a thing has been a tremendous experience for me, and I would like to thank Dave and the entire group for making it possible. Baren has been (and continues to be) a resource for me unlike any other. To be able to draw from the experience of professionals, to order tools (thanks Graham and Marnie!), get advice on _everything_, and to view the work of such a diverse group of artists is a truly amazing thing. Also, if anybody would like to share any critiques about my piece (including scathing ones), I would be grateful. A personal e-mail to pedrobot@aol.com would be much appreciated. I'm pleased that I got the package today. Happy New Year, indeed. - --Pete ------------------------------ From: Maria Arango Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:08:45 -0800 Subject: [Baren 7404] Re: papers Thanks for the info, Jack. Lenox 100 was recommended for relief prints by the folks at The Paper Web when I asked about oversized papers. It behaves about like BFK or Arches when dampened and used for relief. It is available through Rembrandt in 52" width, 20-yard rolls. Another paper we looked at was Rives de Lin, comes in 50" and 20-yard also but it is pricey at $175/roll. I got a couple of small sheets and found it a deliciously thick and spongy paper that has an awesome watercolorpaperlike surface, but feels much softer. Have not tried my samples with a relief print yet, but it's only Dec. 31st! We finally settled on Stonehenge white, comes in 52" by 10-yard rolls at $54 each. Not bad, we can get about 3 prints per roll and we are also looking at printing on cloth. Just yesterday we took one of my old blocks and Honda-printed it over and over on several different remnants of cloth and also on the paper. The best prints came out on the dampened paper (Stonehenge 22x30), on a piece of sheer stuff that you can see right through (muslin, I think), and on red vinyl (don't ask, Daryl is a darying chap). Yet to see if the vinyl print will dry since the ink will just sit on top of the stuff forever. We thought a banner like display for a 4' x 8' print would be pretty awesome. Incidentally, for tympans we used both a hard (fiberboard) and soft (carpeting) surfaces, with diverse results. For the big one we will probably use a full sheet of fiberboard. We're finalizing carving this weekend and printing next week. Can't wait to see the big ones. I will take pics and post updates on the monstercut pages. Whaddaya mean, Philip? We're right on schedule! Health to all, Maria - -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maria Arango Maria@mariarango.com PrintmakingStudio/MArango Gallery http://www.printmakingstudio.com <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 13:51:54 +0900 Subject: [Baren 7405] Rituals.. Just finished up the January 1st annual ritual ... going through the New Year cards that were dropped in the mailbox this morning. Don't know if you're familiar with the custom over here or not, but in Japan the post office holds back all new year cards, and then delivers them in a batch to every home on the morning of the first day of the year. I got a real good bunch of them this time from many of my collectors and friends ... hand-written, woodblock printed, ink-jet printed, pencil crayoned, you name it. And yes, there are a whole bunch of dragons too! (There are even a few from people to whom I did not send one, and that means quickly getting one of my cards ready, addressing it, and then zipping to the post office to mail it (they are open this afternoon especially for this job only). These cards will arrive on the 2nd, just as I will also receive a bunch more tomorrow, from people who 'forgot' me! Happy New Year! Dave ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 14:54:06 +0900 Subject: [Baren 7406] More dragons ... As an addendum to my post an hour ago ... (sorry!) ... here is a selection of the cards I received this morning: http://woodblock.com/temporary/dragons_etc/ If you go to that URL your browser should then display a list of image files for you. Click on each one to view it ... *** John wrote: >> Question: why is David's #4 print like a flock of sheep? > This has to be something about 'chops', yes ? Another interesting guess ... but off the mark again I'm sorry! Dave ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 22:13:13 -0800 Subject: [Baren 7407] Happy New Year By golly it doesn't get any better.... Just put the 5 kids to bed after a fabulous New Year . We had bonfire and marshmallows. We had pin the tail on the donkey. We had ice cream cake We had rummy We had toasts We had sparklers We had stories....Pooh bear..... And now 10pm Marn and I are into the Champagne. Happy New Year Everybody. Marnie & Graham ------------------------------ From: arafat alnaim Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:04:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 7408] Happy NewYear Happy New Year every body Arafat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 03:20:43 EST Subject: [Baren 7409] Re: Happy New Year happy new year everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!! georga ------------------------------ From: "John Ryrie" Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:25:34 +1100 Subject: [Baren 7410] Acid charset="iso-8859-1" > Maria Arango wrote: > > > Is the typically > > brown wrapping paper that printing paper is shipped in, safe? A few years back I went to a garage sale and bought 100 sheets of Watmans 350 GSM watercolour paper for $5, which has to be the bargain of the last century. Anyway this paper was rapped in brown paper, there was a receipt in the packet dated 1961 so the paper had been siting in the garage for 37 years. None of the paper had been effected by the brown paper but the packet was sealed with masking tape and the acid from that had gone through the brown paper and through 5 sheets of the watercolour paper. A lot of papers now, like Sumerset or Magnani are packed in brown paper that is waxed to protect it and Arches and Ingress come in plastic bags. Good to see every one arriving into the new century. If I'd known you were having ice-cream cake Graham, I would have been over there like a shot. John ------------------------------ From: arafat alnaim Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 02:32:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 7411] Printing problem The wood doesn't accept the oil printing ink I'm using evenly? What can I do for avoiding this? I have changed the ink and the way of inking but this didn't work. Arafat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V10 #842 ****************************