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Baren Digest               Sunday, 3 October 1999       Volume 09 : Number 728

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From: Barbara Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 07:49:06 -0700
Subject: [Baren 6073] welcome Josephine 

Josephine,
Welcome to the Baren, some days it is much worse, we are a vocal
group.......at least some of us.

I am still struggling with createx ink, I am actually taking a class
this morning from another printmaker who does monotypes using it, in
case she knows something I don't know. I have one more demo and one more
workshop to teach using this ink..........whoever invented it must have
had good results so possibly it is just me. If I ever work things out, I
will post the process as the colors are good.

Have a wonderful time on your trip, Dave and let us know all about it
when you return.

We are planning a printmakers party in Portland on the weekend of
November 13 and 14. If anyone on Baren lives in the Northwest and would
like to come, let me know. It will be a weekend of sharing ideas and
techniques in my studio. If we get too many, we will find a larger place
to have our priintmakers party. Email me off list for directions. All
are welcome.

Barbara

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From: judy mensch <mensch@interport.net>
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 11:22:52 -0400
Subject: [Baren 6074] Re: Ken Tyler 

Julio,
I don't know Ken Tyler's own prints, but I do know him and worked for
him at his shop for a few months on some Roy Lichenstein sculpture
editions some years ago. I see him at the fine art print dealers fair
each year here in NYC. His shop is a fabulous place with areas for all
print media including a hugh flat bed press (those of you talking about
bulding presses etc.. would love it.) I believe it's often used as a
proofing press for large images. He has an excellent woodblock printer
working for him.  I like that he built in an apartment upstairs from the
shop for visiting artists. I would consider him a a hands on 
collaborative printer.  Judy

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From: "Bea Gold" <bnj50@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:48:33 -0700
Subject: [Baren 6075] 

Hi Jean,  I just entered "wood cut prints" in a search because of what
Josephine said abour finding the Baren - (welcome, Josephine)  and the first
site listed was http://www.flemings.u-net.com/ - a site for information on a
degree in printmaking at Cambridge - it had your name listed as a valuable
link site but when I clicked on it it was  NOT FOUND   - so are you a
"known" artist or a "recognized" artist.  Better check that site!

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From: Ruth Leaf <leafr@ecom.net>
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:33:54 -0700
Subject: [Baren 6076] Re: Baren Digest V9 #726 

Julio..Ken Tyler is I think a very good business man with a large
knowledge of all aspects of printmaking.  I was in his studio a year or
two ago and as far as I know he doesn't print he has a huge number of
printers who are experts in computer, relief, intaglio,seriegraph and
any other kind of printing I may have forgotten to mention.  The studio
is for a printmaker to die for. He also has a huge papermaking
department.  Frank Stella was the artist featured at the time.  The
prints huge 9'by12' some  of them.  (although I like the smaller simpler
ones)  The prints had a diversion of every print medium you could think
of in one print.  If you can get to see it it is a very exciting
experience....Ruth

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From: James G Mundie <jimandkatemundie@juno.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:26:00 -0400
Subject: [Baren 6077] one museum that might not give you the cold shoulder 

Dave,

I read about your recent ongoing problems with the MFA in Boston and I
have to agree that busy or not, it is rather rude of them to wait until
you have booked tickets to say "No."  

However, in future you may want to call on the good folks at the
Philadelphia Museum of Art.  Their print viewing room is accessible to
anyone with some advance notice.  I've often called in the morning for an
appointment and by one o'clock that afternoon there were twenty Durer
engraving ready for me to look at.  The PMA has quite a sizable Japanese
collection that would be worth going through.  I do know that at least
one aspect has been cataloged and published -- the works of that fellow
whose name escapes me at present but is widely credited with "inventing"
color printing in Japan.  I've got a photocopy of the forward to the
catalog sitting around here somewhere.

At any rate, if you would like the appropriate contacts, let me know
off-list and I will get them for you.

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A hearty welcome to all of the new members in Australia and points other.

Sla/n,
James Mundie

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:04:18 -0700
Subject: [Baren 6079] Re: Hello from a new subscriber 

Welcome Josephine

You will find much information and answers here.
It was interesting as I read your introduction.....I did not detect an
accent...eh.

You may find help full stuff at:
http://www.members.home.net/gscholes/
Go to the workshop section...enjoy
If you have any questions give me a shout.

Regards,

Graham

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From: "Philip Smith" <smithart@pacifier.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:24:16 -0700
Subject: [none]

Hello Josephine,....a warm welcome to the group! Your new press "not yet 
delivered" sounds great!  Keep us posted please!  Best 
regards,......

Philip

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From: severn@acay.com.au
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 08:13:11 +1000
Subject: [Baren 6083] glowing prints 

I've seen it done, glowing prints that is.

A fellow student when I was at Uni was the fluro kid and I mean fluro,
even her hair was flurescent pink. She did a series of screenprints
using 'glow in the dark' inks and she installed them in a little room.
We had to go in under black light and it all glowed in the dark. I have
photos but they dont show the glow.

Josephine

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From: severn@acay.com.au
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 08:23:11 +1000
Subject: [Baren 6084] Createx Inks 

Sorry I forgot to mention..

I have used Createx Inks. You make your image on acetate and let the ink
dry (VIP), then you use damp paper and put the acetate and paper through
the press like you would a drypoint or etching. The damp paper lifts the
dry ink off the acetate, and you have your monoprint. It works best with
certain papers but I'd have to look that up.

Josephine

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From: John Ryrie <j.ryrie@pgrad.unimelb.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 13:01:53 +1000
Subject: [Baren 6085] Re: Safe and Sound 

Jeanne the other Australians that I was referring two included myself and I've
forgotten his name now but there was someone from the ACT a while back who was
on the traditional Japanese technique team.

David is it the case that the Boston gallery has Japanese prints that are
nowhere to be found in Japan?  

John Ryrie

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From: David Bull <davebull@woodblock.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 14:58:20 +0900
Subject: [Baren 6087] Re: Museums... 

Jack wrote:
> This may turn out to be a boon! Maybe irradiated 'kozo' will 
> be free from mold growth during printing, and foxing in collections!

Yeah, right ...  No mold in the paper ... but the owner's hair starts to
fall out ...

This morning's newspaper has this quote:
"... top government spokesman also told reporters that crops,
livestock and marine products in the prefecture are safe
for consumption."

So maybe (maybe) there isn't going to be a problem.

***

Jim wrote:
> in future you may want to call on the good folks at the
> Philadelphia Museum of Art.  Their print viewing room is accessible to
> anyone with some advance notice.  

I'll put this on my list for future consideration Jim; I can't start
changing my plans for this current trip at this point, but will
definitely think about it for later ...

> the works of that fellow whose name escapes me at present but 
> is widely credited with "inventing" color printing in Japan.

I think it's probably Harunobu you mean ...

***

John wrote
> David is it the case that the Boston gallery has Japanese 
> prints that are nowhere to be found in Japan?  

It seems that the Boston collection _is_ actually the largest in the
world - I've seen a figure of 'over 100,000' Japanese prints hidden away
in there.  There is nothing even remotely comparable to that here in
Japan.

It's impossible to publish such a collection of course, and an assistant
there with whom I spoke on the telephone a couple of weeks ago, stated
that they actually had 'no idea' (her words) what was really in there. A
number of the most famous items are of course known and studied, but as
for the bulk of the collection (which no doubt contains zillions of the
sort of prints I am looking for), sorting and cataloging it is
completely beyond their capabilities. 

It would take a large team of researchers a long long time to put
together even the most rudimentary illustrated catalogue of the
collection. 

It _is_ a rather frustrating feeling, knowing that all that stuff is
just sitting in those drawers and boxes ...

Dave

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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer@iinet.net.au>
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 99 14:36:26 -0000
Subject: [Baren 6088] Re: Baren Digest V9 #727

Welcome Josephine from another of your Australian counterparts.  I am the 
"lone ranger" here in Perth Western Australia, but not for long I hope.  
Our printmakers association is very strong here but very few work in 
wood. 

This is a wonderful forum and I hope you enjoy the contact of Baren 
members as much as I do.

Cheers, Jan

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From: "Philip Smith" <smithart@pacifier.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:50:41 -0700
Subject: [none]

Dave,....I guess there's something in particular you would like to see 
out of Boston,...Could I suggest that the Portland, OR Art Museum has a 
fairly sizeable print colection,...I think about 45,000 prints,...AND 
things are a bit more layed back here in the northwest,...I'm about 2 
hours away but there are a couple of members living in the area,..can we 
asist in your search????        

 Philip

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From: "Philip Smith" <smithart@pacifier.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 00:01:27 -0700
Subject: [none]

Hello Jan, Josephine and John,..I found a sight that may be of interest 
to you,..and I know you probly already know of it,..but just in 
case,..It's ART$INFO in your country,...[yes the S is a dollar sign in 
their logo],...I guess they give out a lot of grants,..[grants you don't 
have to pay back],...and other monies for supplies and materials,...and 
I don't know if you know it Josephine,....that new press of yours is 
going to use up alot of paper!!! Just a thought kids that might 
assist,...!!!!    

Philip
www.artsinfo.net.au/

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From: severn@acay.com.au
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 17:24:15 +1000
Subject: [Baren 6091] Re: web craftwood and paper 

Philip Smith wrote:
> > www.artsinfo.net.au/

Thankyou Phillip, I _do_ already have this site listed. As you all know
it really is a web out there and I have been jumping from list to list
digging up interesting things, many of which are merely bookmarked
waiting for me to have a bigger dig later. I am trying to restrict my
list to printmaking and papermaking resources, and related subjects.

For the Aussies in the group I found a site 

Online Australian Culture Festival
http://www.culture.com.au

which may be of interest. Its a forthcoming on-line exhibition
showcasing Australian Art. I am very dissappointed at how neglected
printmaking is in general in Aussie culture, this may be an opportunity
to redress the situation.

I'm still working my way through the Baren site and I noticed the wood
types used did not mention craft wood, or MDF board. I was introduced to
this recently as an alternative to plywood as it does not have any grain
prints well and cuts like butter. Its also very cheap.

I found a few sites on paper conservation in my travels. I bookmarked 
http://www.hfmgr.org/histories/cis/paper.html  which is on the care and
conservation of works on paper. I wonder if it has a section on glowy
paper?

I have been making my own paper. The local college art dept has a
recycle bin I have been raiding. I take the trimmings of rag paper and
make my own new sheets out of it. Just an idea for you to try! I've
found the discarded blotting paper makes nice paper too though I dont
know its composition.

Hi Jan, I imagine its very isolated out there in Perth sometimes. I am
so glad to find Baren. 

Regards Josephine

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