[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Monday, 13 September 1999 Volume 08 : Number 703 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Philip Smith" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:17:30 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5781] Re: wet paper You know Graham,...I'm not so keen on everything that comes from Japan is the untimate answer in woodcuts,...hosho,...no equal? Maybe. There's a little paper mill that has been in production, in Italy,Magnani by name, sense the mid-1400's,....they turn out a sheet called Incisioni/Pescia is the new name, Daniel Smith carries it,.. mainly an etching paper but I've had excellent results with block printing,...you might try it one day,....It,s a real nice sheet...Philip ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:28:25 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5782] Re: wet paper Phillip, You may be on to something here. I would probably only have to feel it and look at in an magnifying glass to pass judgement. However it isn't the best stuff out there then let me drop this on you. There are serious collectors out there that won't purchase a Hanga print unless it is on Hosho paper. I think I will stay with the given.... Regards, Graham An after thought...... Noboru Sawai goes to Japan once a year every two years for three months to work with the papermaker there and he makes his own sheets. The Kozo fibre from the western part of Japan is the thing....the best.... They have tried sending mulberry plants to Taiwan and make the paper there as it would be cheaper..... No go..... the water is not just quite right. I'm sure Dave can elaborate. ------------------------------ From: "Jean Eger" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 05:40:12 +0900 Subject: [Baren 5784] Bea, Afer sizing, add the paper to the pile of sized papers. When you have your stack or stacks, carefully peel them off and lay them down on sheets of garbage bags. I used to lay them down on sheets of newsprint, until I considered that the acidity in the newsprint might go into the Japanese paper. So i switched to garbage bag plastic. They are temporarily all over the place. The paper I used (student Hosho) was not strong enough to hang up on the line. re large prints two artists come to mind: Tomoko Murakami and Sandy Walker. Tomoko has a web site at http://www.grin.net/ She prints with oil based color on silk, last I heard. She will be starting classes soon at her Oakland studio. YOu can write to her yusaifu@grin.net for a schedule. Sandy Walker prints oil based on paper. They are extremely large black and white calligraphic abstracts which evoke landscapes. Very beautiful. I saw them in his studio once. I couldn't find his work on line, although I am sure it is there somewhere. Jean E/ ------------------------------ From: "Philip Smith" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:23:47 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5788] Re: wet paper Then your point is that the serious collectors only collect Japanese prints,...say prior to 1900, and only Hanga,.....???? I don't think so,...a given or not! Philip ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:55:32 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5789] Re: wet paper Dear Philip, Read what I said. ..... not what you think I said. >There are serious collectors out there that won't purchase a Hanga print >unless it is on Hosho paper. I did not say all, every, but in your case I should have said some. Is that better? Graham ------------------------------ From: judy mensch Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:05:41 -0400 Subject: [Baren 5790] Re: Printing with cars? Have you heard about fund raisers that get groups of people to print 4' x 8' pieces of plywood with steam rollers? It was done at Mass. College of Art in a parking lot a few years ago! Cars/Steam rollers rollers, cars/steam rollers!? Sounds good to me! Judy ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:33:36 +0900 Subject: [Baren 5792] Re: Bea's Elderhostel Report Bea wrote: > Will you put my description of April's workshop up? I have no photos > - maybe April or Barbara do. Can't we add them later anyway? OK, you're on-line ... Head to the main portal page: http://woodblock.com and select 'Events and Activities' ... Dave ------------------------------ From: Gregory Robison Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:46:13 +0300 Subject: [Baren 5793] Re: sizing etc Kampala, 13 September 1999 Bea Gold wrote: > Greg - Since I figure I have about ten more years of active work ahead > of me I'll just keep practicing using the To until I get it perfect and then????? Bea: You made the right choice. Heaven can wait. I've always thought that a good way to organize one's life would be to work backward from the moment of death -- you know, if you've got 12 years two months and five days left of life, then get out the ol' agenda and start penciling things in. The Big Assumption involved in this calculation is counterbalanced by the Great Certainty: Your actual mileage may vary (as Maria says), but sooner or later we're all going to run out of gas. That part we can count on. What bit of country do we want to see between now and then? Whom do we want to visit? What images and visions do we want to render with wood and ink and paper? If we want to leave a corpus as well as a corpse, we've gotta think about that. Along with your note I got an e-mail from my best and oldest friend in Seattle, whose brother dropped dead yesterday, without warning, in apparently perfect health. We all grew up together within a block of each other on Capitol Hill. He was under 50. I don't know if his wife found his agenda where he fell like a leaf, shooting baskets in the back yard before breakfast, but if she did I doubt there was a red line on the page for September 11 with a reminder, "Get the big stuff done by today." I hope you get your ten, Bea. In the meantime, we know we're alive when we can cut and print. Let's do it! L'chaim! Greg ------------------------------ From: "Philip Smith" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:20:12 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5794] Re: wet paper Graham, did I ruffle your feathers,...??? I do apologize,...from now I will etch your words granite,....OOOPPS! pardon the word etch. Behave youself,.....Philip ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V8 #703 ***************************