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Baren Digest             Thursday, 9 September 1999     Volume 08 : Number 696

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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc@prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:29:38 -0400
Subject: [Baren 5690] Re: Short notes ... 

Gary
I was also disappointed in the critiques. Having been an art teacher for 25
years, I am all for constructive criticism. I did receive a few critiques
and they were very nice and I appreciated the time that it took to reply.
I also think they should be out there where we all can read them and get the
benefit of the critique. Nobody is perfect (sorry Graham), but let us get a
good critique going.
 Naturally noone is going to say "Your work is awful", but we can all use a
guiding hand, all of us.
If your work is on a plateau, it can go higher!!!
I am all for it , and I do not mind if you use anything that I do as a
lesson in "what not to do".

Thanks Gary

Jeanne

Did I hear a twinge of jealousy?  "We three", gals won the prints fare and
square!!!!!!!

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From: Gayle Wohlken <blueman@nacs.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:41:13 -0400
Subject: [Baren 5691] Re: Baren Digest V8 #695 

Juan, your work is colorful and interesting.  I look forward to the 
English version so I can read the page where you are showing your
methods of working.  What does "Oleo" mean? 

* * *
Gary, Dave gave us an opportunity to critique each other privately 
and some of us have done that through the method he set up on the 
Baren Exchange #2 pages.  Did you check that out?  

Gayle

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:58:47 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5693] Re: Short notes ... 

By all means go for critiques.

I would prefer face to face as I have tried the writing thing and I would
....... will..... not participate. It may be someone else's bag and they
will handle it.  A good critique can be pages long and usually is only of
interest to one party.
My Canadian 1 1/2 worth.

Cheers,

Graham

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From: amoss@mindspring.com (John Amoss)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:47:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Baren 5695] personal question 

Does anyone on the [Baren] list work full-time in any US university
printmaking departments? If so, and you don't mind answering a few short
questions, please message me off-list: <amoss@mindspring.com>

Thanks!
- -John Amoss

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From: Karla Hackenmiller <khackenm@bmtc.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 12:04:02 -0600
Subject: [Baren 5696] Re: Baren Digest V8 #695 

Could someone please post or email directly to me information about the
exhibition in Japan where the Baren Exchange #1 was exhibited?  Thank
you very much.  k

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From: Gary Luedtke <GLuedtke@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:11:52 -0400
Subject: [Baren 5697] Re: Short notes ... 

Jeanne wrote,

If your work is on a plateau, it can go higher!!!  I am all for it , and I
do not mind if you use anything that I do as a lesson in "what not to do"

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From: Gary Luedtke <GLuedtke@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:17:24 -0400
Subject: [Baren 5698] Re: Baren Digest V8 #695 

Gayle wrote,
>Gary, Dave gave us an opportunity to critique each other privately and
>some of us have done that through the method he set up on the Baren
>Exchange #2 pages.  Did you check that out?  

Actually Gayle, no.   I took it to mean that they would be _private_ and
therefore not open to public view so I haven't even looked.   Thanks for
mentioning it though,  if they are not private, then I'll take a look.  I
was kind of thinking though of a more critical forum, because comments
about someone else's prints may well be considered for all.   In other
words, if someone said something about your print, I might think to myself,
that's a good idea, _I_ should try that on mine, and thereby benefit  a
little.   Just a thought.

Gary

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From: Wanda Robertson <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:45:39 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5699] Bits & pieces 

You're very kind, Graham. And I don't really mind the Baren members
seeing it - but I don't think it speaks well of everything we learned
while we were in Sidney. I continue to be amazed at all the information
that is still packed away in my little brain! I'll come to a Hanga
stumbling block & I'll stop and think - now, what did we do at Graham's?
And, almost every time, an answer pops up. Plus, I know I can e-mail the
rest of you and get an answer, too. 

Actually, I should not keep saying these things - the price of next
year's workshop will probably go up! :-)

I must admit, Mary, Jeanne & Maria, I am also envious of your good
fortune in the drawing. I think I won a turkey at Thanksgiving one year,
but other than that ----zip! But, Graham, we women do *not* gab more
than the guys! I guess you have forgotten the workshop, Barbara and I
could barely get a word in edge-ways. Heeheehee

Back to the studio - work, work, work. I love it.

Wanda

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:12:10 -0500
Subject: [Baren 5701] Re: my sites 

Hi Juan, nice interesting work on your home page. I also enjoyed your poem on
the main page. There are at least five spanish bareners among us
now.......Haydee Landing(Puerto Rico), Horacio (Brazil), Maria Arango (Cuba/Las
Vegas), yourself (Mexico) and me....Julio Rodriguez(Cuba/Illinois). Did I missed
any lurkers ?  What there not someone from Portugal
at one time ?.......I know.....but  Portugese & Spanish are so close.....I count
them as one!

Did not see any actual woodcuts on your site.....did I miss them  or  are you
more into..... oleo......

I'll beat you to the punch, those that asked.......Oleo is Oils (Not Ole!.....as
in the bullring call).

Will visit again to study your work more.........

Thanks.....Julio Cesar Rodriguez

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From: "Cyndy Wilson" <cwilson@cet.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:49:47 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5704] Re: Short notes ... 

> I was also disappointed in the critiques. Having been an art teacher for25
> years, I am all for constructive criticism. I did receive a few critiques
> and they were very nice and I appreciated the time that it took to reply.

I got several responses with questions about technique as well as a few
constructive critcisms which I appreciated and, BTW, I agreed with.

> I also think they should be out there where we all can read them and get the
> benefit of the critique.  Naturally noone is going to say "Your work is
>awful", but we can all use >a guiding hand, all of us.

I agree that we can all use good critiques and can learn from someone else's
more objective read of our work.
I did, however, like the opportunity to respond to people personally,
knowing that they would be the only ones to see my comments.  I actually
felt freer to say more than I would have it if was posted to the main list.

Cyndy Wilson

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From: Gary Luedtke <GLuedtke@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:04:33 -0400
Subject: [Baren 5705] Re: Short notes ... 

Cyndy said,
>I did, however, like the opportunity to respond to people personally, 

No need to use the past tense, Cyndy, no reason you still cannot do that.

This would only be for the folks who wish a public critique and for those
willing to offer one.   Private comments I am sure would still be welcome

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:09:45 -0500
Subject: [Baren 5706] Re: web site for presses.. 

I came across by accident on a web-site for a press manufacturer in Holland
(Polymetaal).

www.polymetaal.nl/

There are lots of interesting stuff in there including many pages on their
products & instructions on how to use their presses.
There is also a page of old/antiques for sale....worth taking a look at.

I don't know how these compares to US presses or the ones from the Canadian
maker (Graham's bagpipe playing cousin) posted here at Baren but if you like
looking at presses, there are a ton of photos.

 Does anyone have plans on how to build your own press ? with readily available
parts ?
Is not that I don't have the money to buy a press, but the fact is that I like
building things and the challenge of making things I build work. I am looking
for a press that would allow me to print woodblocks........any leads would be
appreciated!

Thanks....Julio

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From: "Philip Smith" <smithart@pacifier.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:53:48 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5707] Re: web site for presses.. 

Good idea Julio,....building a press,...I'd like to find an old book press
[E-Bay has one currently,..but it's in Oklahoma,..and the first bid,.. I
think is $1000.00]...a woodworkers bench screw would work,...but have you
ever considered an industrial floor press?...Harbour Freight Tools has a
small one, 16.5" mouth for $99.00,....hydraulic, and could be easily adapted
for block printing,......Philip

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:12:19 -0500
Subject: [Baren 5708] Re: web site for presses.. 

Hi Philip;

I have seen plans for small presses built around a small hydraulic car jack
attached to a heavy steel plate.....I guess that's kind of like a floor press,
right ?  The bottom plate travels upwards to press against a stationary upper
plate. I have also seen drawings for a homebuilt roller driven press....but very
sketchy details...

It might be time for another visit  to a nearby store;  the "American Science
Center & Surplus" , it's kind of a junk store for all types of scientific,
mechanical, army surplus stuff.........I' seen all kinds of rollers, motor
assemblies and gizmos in there that could sparkle some ideas....

Just having fun guys, I am not planning on throwing away my baren.

Julio

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From: "Philip Smith" <smithart@pacifier.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:46:10 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5709] Re: web site for presses.. 

Julio,..yes,...that's the idea,...these floor presses that I spoke of, have
the hydraulic jack mounted about 5' from the floor and the upper plate moves
down to a center bar,...where you would have a second plate to lay your
block and paper on,....it could work,.....I think!  Philip

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