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Baren Digest             Thursday, 9 September 1999     Volume 08 : Number 695

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From: Barbara Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 06:21:46 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5679] Books 

Greg,
We have missed your input, welcome back! The book discussion is very
interesting, I am making a list for future reference and trips to
Powells (the Portland "city of books store").
Barbara

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From: <DARICH@prodigy.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:42:26 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5680] Re Tom Killion 

Dear Greg,
Tom Killion is a friend of mine here in Santa Cruz.  He is still printing
and producing beautiful letterpress book and would be thrilled I'm sure to
know you admired the Coast of California prints.  His address is 124 Otis
Street,  Santa Cruz, CA 95060. 

I have just finished a new print which I will post on my web page one of
these days, but now I'm off to Wisconsin for the Birds in Art show.  Then I
will be rushing around to get ready for Open Studio which is held here in
October.  Some two hundred artists open there studios on three consecutive
weekends.  It is lots of fun, I meet hundreds of people and sell a good
deal of work.  If any of you are in California in October come by.

Andrea Rich

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From: Gayle Wohlken <blueman@nacs.net>
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 14:49:37 -0400
Subject: [Baren 5681] Re: Baren Digest V8 #694 

David Stones said:
>  If you're pushing so hard
> on the tool that it's causing the problems you mention, either the wood is
> very hard (then use a mallet) or the blade needs attention.

Dave, you are right.  I think it is the blade needing some
attention.  I've been  avoiding this one because of the
complex tip (bullnosed chisel).  Even though I  traced it,
I'm really afraid of botching the job.  

Wanda, a lot of times I get started on my block without
precautions.  I work so spontaneously that it causes me
problems in the department of safety.  This is a bad habit
and I pay for it with these cuts on my fingers.  

Dave, I know you must heave a sigh when the kids leave
(not so much of relief, though  maybe there's some of
that) as "there they go again."  I think we're all going
to miss them because we have felt them behind the scenes
all summer.  

Gayle

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From: Wanda Robertson <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 13:00:45 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5682] Re:transfer 

Aha, now we know how to get some news from you, just misspell your name!
:-) I'd like to say I did it on purpose, but as well as all 
"Those-Who-Perspired-And-Laughed-Together in Sidney" know me, I know I'd
never get away with it. Could it be that I am so used to typing my own
name with the "n" in it, that my fingers just flew, ever so gracefully,
over the keys and inadvertantly stuck that sucker in there? As to
removing it with the To - methinks that could be dangerous, so I won't! 

Well, Gregory, would you like to show your very first practice Hanga
print to the world? I'd be glad to scan it in and put it up in my little
beginning web page stuff. And anything you wished to say about it. That
offer goes to the other students of Graham's as well. I really don't
want to put mine up there, as it is really awful. But I thought everyone
else's was wonderful! I guess mine could be a good example of "what not
to do", though. 

I'm sure we all want to see the sketches & linocuts from the safari.  I
would think the top of a land rover would be the prudent place to be
sketching wild animals!

Gregory Robi son- yes, that's it! :-)

Wanda

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From: David Bull <davebull@woodblock.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:46:00 +0900
Subject: [Baren 5683] Short notes ... 

A couple of short notes:

- - the 'Silly Season' presents are now on the way to their new owners -
you should be getting them soon, ladies.  (Interesting that the three
winners were all women; [Baren] itself is about half and half).

- - Early next week I'll be sending in the order to the case maker for the
cases for Exchange #3.  Participants who will want one should get their
orders in right away please:
http://woodblock.com/forum/exchange_3.html

- - I'm off for a few days for a climb up Mt. Hodaka with Sadako-san. 
This is Hiroshi Yoshida 'territory', and he did lots of prints of that
mountain and the surrounding area.  (But don't hold your breath to see
what _I_ come up with!)

Dave

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From: "Jean Eger" <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:33:48 +0900
Subject: [Baren 5684] 

Julio,
I am also a fan of Tom Killion's work.  I met him recently at an outdoor
fair in Live Oak Park in Berkeley.  He had a stand and was selling his work.
His work is also on display and for sale around the Bay Area.  It is
reasonably priced, for original work.  I saw several of his prints in a
gallery downtown, about half way between the Powell street Bay Area Rapid
Transit station (BART) and the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art (SFOA).
The book gives good reproductions of the actually prints.

It really is awesome to meet and look at the work of someone who has
developed a large body of work with their own style and subject matter.  I
feel that way about April.  Her professionalism really shines through.

Jean Eger

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From: Gary Luedtke <GLuedtke@compuserve.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:52:48 -0400
Subject: [Baren 5686] Re: Short notes ... 

Graham, 

    I'm afraid I'm going to have to chime in here on your side.   Strange
that 3 ladies won the draw, but then two young ladies did the draw.   Now
they've all vamoosed leaving us high and dry.   I think there's something
fishy going on here.    Do you suppose there's a State Gaming Commission in
Japan to whom we might appeal?

    I think we're going to have to have a little chat with our friend Dave
when he gets back from his "hike" in the hills.   ; )

    What are we going to discuss now in his absence to keep things rolling?
  Got anything "controversial" we need to talk over?   

    Whatever happened to the "critiques" you were all expecting from your
exchanges?   Has any "constructive criticism ever come out?   I don't
recall ever seeing any.   That is pretty touchy ground though.   Maybe that
is _too_ touchy.    But maybe we could discuss a format for such criticism
that would perhaps present ideas as "possibilities for exploration".   
Another idea would be to say one complimentary thing and one constructive
thing about a given print.   I think that kind of feedback might be of some
use, what do the rest of you think?   Just as a method to get a change of
perspective about our work, a little thought provocation which can either
be acted upon or discarded at the personal discretion of the recipient. 
"What if you tried this?"  or What if you tried that?"  I don't know, I'm
probably not the one to talk about tact.   But some of you are pretty good
at it, and can probably offer some good suggestions for this type of
format.

    Here we might lean on some of the "teachers" in the group who have
dealt with guiding students, who have perhaps developed a delicacy in
handling that type of suggestion.   I have noticed that this group is great
on being very supportive of each other's efforts and we certainly don't
want to compromise that atmosphere.   However those who have more
experience could benefit those with less with a little delicate
instruction, I think, if handled carefully.   If we all just say everyone
else's work is great, will that really benefit anyone in the long run?  
How can a suggestion be made without being taken as an expressed dislike?  


    Maybe some of you have had teachers that had a facility for making
constructive criticism that you might share with us.   If you learn
something from it, isn't that a worthwhile experience too?

    This is just an idle thought, perhaps, to stir things up a bit, but I
do recall hearing some of you ask for constructive criticism and I don't
recall that you ever got it.   What's the consensus on this idea, then, try
it out or give it up?   Give it to me straight.   

    Or, we might borrow from Dave's method and offer a prize to a selected
individual who contributes a sound criticism.   A contest, if you will, of
the constructive criticism containing the most delicacy and persuasive
instruction.   Something to tune us into the proper mode of sensitive
critique.

    Sounds like a bit of a challenge.   Anyone up for it?   I'd be happy to
offer one of my prints as the starting focus of critique.   Others may
volunteer their work who wish to hear opinions too, but it should be
something on the Baren site or a personal web-page so that everyone has
access to it.  

???????

Gary

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:33:57 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5688] Re:transfer 

Wanda wrote....
>I really don't want to put mine up there,
>as it is really awful. But I thought everyone
>else's was wonderful! I guess mine could be a good
>example of "what not to do", though.

Having being involved with the development of Wanda's print of the
strawberry patch I can state without reservation that for the first Hanga
print the final was a very good print.  There is much more good than bad
and what is even more important is that it was a bloody hard subject to
make work.  It worked and Wanda, if you don't put it on your page then I
will (with your permission of course).

Every caring

Graham

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From: viscult@mich1.telmex.net.mx
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:15:33 -0500
Subject: [Baren 5689] Re: my sites 

Bareneers:
I'm pleasant to submit a couple of web-adresses where you can find some of
my works. The first one is still on construction (english version about to
be ready), but you can see almost all the images. I have a gallery of
prints, paintings, mail-art and Book-of-Artist, etc.
The second adress is a site I'm sharing with two more artists, but you can
see a pair of my drypoints. There is a link to an english version. Enjoy it.

Juan Guerrero

http://go.to/2ojos

http://angelfire.com/on/artplastic

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