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Baren Digest             Tuesday, 7 September 1999     Volume 08 : Number 693

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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 09:48:14 EDT
Subject: [Baren 5649] re-printing colors, etc 

Dave, thanks for your tip on re-printing colors after the paper has already 
dried, etc.  I have wondered about this myself as I do have some prints that 
are OK except for 1 or two colors-
Wanda, that sounds like a great solution for transfering your drawing - 
Greetings to Jean, April, John et al on the west coast - I'll try to have a 
look at the video clip when I can sneak onto a better computer at work!
best to all

Sarah

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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc@prodigy.net>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:22:42 -0400
Subject: [Baren 5650] Various

Part of this should be on After 5 and some on Baren, so I will just put them
all together on one.

Graham
Your show is fantastic. And the drawings in the Mary Ellen gallery are my
cup of tea. As Ingres said "Drawing is the integrity of art". And you have
some wonderful drawings in the gallery. And what a great looking gallery at
Dawsons !!!!

There is a great site some of you might already be aware of; it is ;
http://www.absolutearts.com
It is a free subscription and has information on many wonderful shows that
are currently being presented. Also has from time to time competitions.  All
of the arts are represented. I always look forward to their postings.

I just finished a key block and for the first time I transferred the key
block on to tracing paper. Then it was easy to draw out the colored area
through the tracing paper. It worked better than I expected.
I used this for oil based ink.

Lots of information on reduction printing. Thanks to all!

Jeanne

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 08:22:52 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5651] Re: 'Fixing' prints 

Dave wrote....
>I was pulling out back numbers of my poets' prints, getting them ready
>for this month's scheduled shipping, and noticed that one of the colours
>on one particular print was really poorly printed.  It was a print I
>made more than five years ago, and obviously hadn't used enough pigment
>when doing that colour - it was pale and 'washed out'.

Was that colour..... red?
Somer reds can be temperamental and fade ... even in the darkness of a draw.

Graham

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From: Elizabeth Atwood <elizuno@midcoast.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:53:44 -0400
Subject: [Baren 5652] Re: Look at Dawson Exhibition 

Graham.......great pictures of the Dawson Creek gallery.......glad to see
they were showing the "right stuff"....we are all so proud of
you!.......congratulations.

ElizA

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From: Bea Gold <bnj50@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 10:05:22 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5653] one big message! 

Ah Jean, I was so looking  forward to getting to your party - on video - but
alas I can not get into it.  Sounds like a wonderful party and like you are a
wonderful party giver!  Envious!
Dave - I've not kept up with Summer Silliness ( madness?) but just found your
drawing information. Sounds like fun - who will win?  today's the day - right?
Also, I found the photo description of your Exchange #2 printing -  incredible -
especially because of having the print here to be able to compare it with the
screen image - all this while I'm writing up April's Elderhostel workshop
without photos to show -
Jeanne - did you get a response to your question about my prints?  I  think I
was writing you when my computer froze up and i lost the message - I was saying
that I enjoy your prints a lot and wondered if they are oil base - they are
aren't they?  Great color.  In response to your question - "I take it that you
do a watercolor, then print a key block on top of the
painting, right? I like the effect, especially the simplicity of Jamaica."  In
some cases that is true - but I wasn't satisfied with the density of the color
so I  used the palate knife and watercolor inks to get a heavier texture with my
black key blocks.  That's true for The Audience and Story Time.  Jamaica was
painted with water color on the back of the print so the color seems much more
part of the paper.  Now that I'm trying to develop my hanga technique I am even
more critical of the color and the weight of the heavy black key block.
Meanwhile I am once again having terrible trouble with my computer - I'm
freezing up, my curser is jumping, my DVD is not working properly and now my MS
Word program became corrupted.  I can't get to any file and guess where my
workshop write-up is!  I will have to take Windows off and start all over again
- -I can't stand it!  - spent the whole day yesterday running diagnostics on my
Dell (and experimenting with hanga colors on a new block at least that made it
not so terrible).  Nothing wrong with the hardware so it seems like it's my
Win98 program.  UGH!!!  This is the second time - anyone else have Win98
problems?

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From: "Jean Eger" <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:04:46 +0900
Subject: [Baren 5654] 

Graham,
I am so happy for you!  What a wonderful exhibition, plus the great
enjoyment of traveling in your beautiful country.  The photos are stunning.
I think it is a wonderful ending to a beautiful summer for you.
Jean Eger

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From: Maria Arango <Maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 15:27:41 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5657] images from other sources 

I was browsing through some art sites and happened upon some images that
I would like to use on my Influences page, still under construction. I
have read and re-read Copyright laws to death and still wondered, I
wa-wa-wa-wa-wondered (ahem, sorry), whether it would be breaking some
rule to use those as reference.
Should I just have a thumbnail on my page and then link directly to the
URL where the image is located? These images are VanGoghs, Durers, and
such but also some fairly recent works by Keifer, for example.
Any advice?
Health to all,
Maria

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 16:20:21 -0700
Subject: [Baren 5658] Re: images from other sources 

Maria

In Canada the copyright law is that the image is protected for 50 years
after the artist death. You should check to find out the time period is in
the States.   In the case of VanGoghs and Durers there would be no problem
in using the image.  Keifer you will have to know the age.

If the copyright still exists you cannot use the images if you will benefit
or gain profit in any way.
Using it on the web is definitly a no no.
You could use them for personal private way at any time, ie. frame and
stick them on your living room wall.

Graham

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From: David Bull <davebull@woodblock.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 08:21:35 +0900
Subject: [Baren 5659] The moment everybody is waiting for ... 

Graham wrote, re my 'reprinting':
> Was that colour..... red?
> Somer reds can be temperamental and fade ... 

It was brown - and no, it wasn't faded, it was simply badly printed.  I
can't blame anybody else for this one!

I should mention something else about this though - that the sizing
certainly felt very 'soft'.  I know that sizing disappears over time,
and if sized paper is stored over a long period it must be re-sized
before use, but I was a bit surprised to find that after only five years
there had been a change in the hardness of the paper (if this isn't my
imagination).  It wasn't too soft to print though.

This makes me curious to learn more about this, and when I get a minute
I'll pull out a few prints from ten years ago and try re-touching
_them_, to see what happens.

***

Maria wrote:
>  browsing through some art sites and happened upon some images that
> I would like to use ...

There's a very easy procedure to find out if it is OK to use the images
- - ask!  I get such requests fairly regularly from people who want to use
my prints to illustrate their web sites.  (A common request is from
teachers who are preparing pages for their art classes.)  I always
comply and give them permission.

It's worth noting that as a web site owner, I can check the server
logbooks and see who is accessing the images on my site, and can clearly
distinguish between 'normal' browsing, and those accesses that are
coming from 'outside' - from people who have linked one of my images
from their own page.  I can then (I _don't_, but I could), insert a
small bit of code that blocks access from those sites, so that those
links will appear as 'broken'.

***

And now, the moment everybody (?) has been waiting for - we're here at
the end of the summer, and time for ... drum roll ... yes, it's time for
the [Baren] 'Silly Season' draw.  (Those who never did catch on to what
was going on, can refer to:
http://woodblock.com/forum/silly
to find out what they missed.

My daughters will be leaving for Canada later this afternoon, but before
they do, they are going to pick the winners of the three prize prints.  

All [Baren] postings from #5310 up until #5657 (which came in a few
minutes ago) were eligible for the draw (348 of them!), and in order to
choose one, the girls will cut ten small slips of paper (digits from 0
to 9) and put the appropriate ones in a 'hat' to draw each of the four
digits.  

- --- *** ---

Are the two of you ready?  (Yes!)

They don't need to draw the first number - the '5' - but for each of the
next three digits, they will pull a slip out of the 'hat' (and then toss
it back in).

Himi is now picking (only numbers from 3 to 6 are in the hat) ... 
What's the second digit?   (It's '4')

Now Fumi's turn (all ten numbers are in the hat) ...  What's the third
digit?   (It's '2')

(They are now reaching in together to pull the last number ... all ten
numbers are in the hat) ... here it comes ...  (It's '3')

So the winning posting is number 5423!

Pause while I search back through the archives ... Here it is: this
posting was made on August 25th, by Maria Arango.   

Congratulations Maria! (Big round of applause!) 

I'll spare everybody the details of the draw for the two 'consolation'
prizes (two of my new year card prints), and simply tell you that the
numbers are:

5359, and 5551, representing postings made by Jeanne Chase and Mary
Krieger.

Thanks for your help Himi and Fumi, and back to your final packing!

- --- *** ---

When I started all this a month or so ago, I wasn't quite sure what to
expect - whether people would 'yawn' and continue their summer 'sleep',
or would perhaps start wildly 'stuffing' the ballot box.  As it turned
out through, neither was the case, and the 'silly' period developed into
some interesting and fertile discussions.

Thanx to everybody who 'participated'. Condolences to all those whose
postings weren't drawn, and congratulations to the three winners, whose
prints will be on their way this afternoon!  (I have addresses for Maria
and Jeanne, but I'll need yours Mary ...)

Shall we try it again next year?

Dave (with Himi & Fumi)

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From: amoss@mindspring.com (John Amoss)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:57:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Baren 5661] H. Yoshida book for sale 

For those interested-
There is an important hanga book for sale on eBAY:
"Japanese Woodblock Printing" by Hiroshi Yoshida, Sanseido, 1939. See:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=159057892>

Although Dave has the book's transcript in the encyclopedia
<http://www.woodblock.com/encyclopedia/entries/011_07/011_07_frame.html>,
the real thing would be a wonderful addition to a dedicated printer's
library.

I'm not selling the book, I just know that this is a rare opporunity to
purchase one of the best (maybe THE best) hanga how-to books ever printed-
one that usually goes for US$500-$1,000+

- -John Amoss

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From: arafat alnaim <ar_alnaim@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:42:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 5662] On Biennals, Awards and Postal Problems 

Hello,
the Majdanek 2000 awards are:
1.The Grand Prix of the Ministry of Art and Culture.
2.Prize from the President of Union of Polish Artists and Designers.
3."7" Equal Prizes of Ministry of Art and Culture.
4.The organizers make allowances for other sponsored awards.
5.The winner of the competition shall be invited to organize an
exhibition at the expanense of the organizers.
 
>Do you have the application for the Egyptian Triennial?,
yes I've the application for all the provided triennial and I'd pleased
to pass them to all interested. In tow days I'll scan the materials and
send them to private e-mail address of the member who would like to
receive them.

It is realy nice to hear about your activity on the International arena
I,m interested in Your dry point prints. My proffessor is one of few
famouse artists who use creativlly this technique in Eroup,
unfortunitly he is not presented on the Internet may be in the future
i'll send you some information about his art and work. (his is Peter
Chukliv).

Acording to the comments about the postal problems
I don't think that this should be an ostical for taking part in
exhibitions. last month I send my works to Hungary by  a Company who
offering coriuer services which is mean that the works will be there in
three days, after 10 days a make a call to see if the works have been
arrived, I was surprised when they told me that the works are on the
custun hall and not on place where they should, after alot of efforts I
solved the problem. So such problems are possble and we should have
them in mind, we should have insurance im maind.

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From: Mary Krieger <mkrieger@mb.sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:50:42 -0500
Subject: [Baren 5664] 6:45 am and already it's a good day 

> Hi everyone

What a pleasant morning surprise. I had to get up a little early this morning
as my husband is driving his father to the hospital for some tests. This meant
I had a little more time between mine and my kids breakfasts - just enough time
to catch up with Baren - and  find I won a "consolation" prize.

Thanks Dave

Mary

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