[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Thursday, 22 July 1999 Volume 08 : Number 637 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bella1yopp@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:29:36 EDT Subject: [Baren 5033] Re:Amanda I found it! One of my pieces can be seen at http://www.centralarts.org I don't know why my work is still on the web site. I haven't been a member of Central Arts Collective in over a year. Thank you John for finding that site. - -Amanda ------------------------------ From: Bella1yopp@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:41:26 EDT Subject: [Baren 5034] Jean Eger Jean, Your work is wonderful. I enjoyed your website. Thank you for the welcome. - - Amanda ------------------------------ From: Wanda Robertson Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:45:49 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5035] Re:Amanda Great print, Amanda. I really like the composition and story of this one. Thanks for helping us find it! And John, thanks for the addy, I found some very interesting things while playing around with that URL! Wanda ------------------------------ From: Wanda Robertson Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:06:45 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5036] Baumann, Phillips & Haizobvski Thank you Joe, I already did a quick & dirty search for the books and found both Nearer to Art & Hand of a Craftsman at good reasonable used book prices. I didn't see the Denver Art Museum catalog though. I will look for it. For the sake of discussion - why do you folks like Phillips better than Baumann? Perhaps I have not seen enough of either's work to have a valid opinion. But, I *really* like what I see of Baumann's stuff. I find it more vigorous than Phillips' work. Now, I know why Graham likes Phillips' work......but would like to hear others ideas. John, could you spell that fellow's name again? It doesn't look quite right to me. Perhaps some transposed letters or something - yahoo couldn't find anything on him. Tell us more! Wanda ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:07:59 -0800 Subject: [Baren 5037] Re: Baumann, Phillips & Haizobvski Wanda wrote.... >Now, I know why Graham likes Phillips' work......but would like to hear >others ideas. Actually Wanda I like Baumann's stuff better.....the richness of colour and your expression nails it beautifully......Vigorous. Don't anybody tell Walter until after the exhibition..... Graham ------------------------------ From: Wanda Robertson Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:34:40 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5038] Re: Baumann, Phillips & Haizobvski Yes, I like his (Baumann's) use of colors & composition - some of them I don't like at all, but the ones I do like - I *really* like! I won't tell Walter.....:-) Wanda ------------------------------ From: Gary Luedtke Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:21:06 -0400 Subject: [Baren 5039] Baumann, Phillips & Haizobvski Well, since I was one that spoke up and seconded Joe's preference for Phillips over Baumann, I'll try to explain why. Phillips' subject matter and his treatment of it is closer to my liking, and if I may say so, it appears more refined. My preferences in the arts started with Impressionism, which I greatly admire. Closer to home I found the Canadian Group of Seven along that same vein with even more familiar subjects and excellent style and color with a bit more dramatic form. That's what Phillips' reminds me of in the woodblock print media, his style is quite similar to the Group of Seven, and it is very interesting to me to see it done in woodblock prints. As I have deleted the Baumann site so don't have it at hand to make any technical comparison, I'll just have to leave it at that. Just personal preference more than anything. Gary ------------------------------ From: judy mensch Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:07:40 -0400 Subject: [Baren 5040] Re: tapes You're all great! I received the two tapes and LOVED the minature woodblock prints that came with them. I'm looking forward to playing the tapes in the next few days. Thanks, and I'll pass them along asap. Judy ------------------------------ From: Sherpsm@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:03:49 EDT Subject: [Baren 5041] Re: Baumann, Phillips & Haizobvski Preferences between Bauman and Phillips? Is it apples and oranges not quite ... Bauman - Yes his work is rich in expression and color. As I said his work is stunning and beautiful. He was a master printer as well an original artist. I have one of his prints (in horrible condition) and I love it. However, and not to be taken in the negative, I find his work closer to wood "engraving" than those who worked in the Japanese woodblock tradition. (I prefer the Japanese stlye of work.) Bauman worked with a press, no problem. His color gradations were achieved with broken color. Dramatic? Artful? Beautiful? I answer YES to all. Great artist! Phillips worked in the Japanese tradition, which I appreciate a great deal. I marvel at his subtle technique. It seems effortless and of course it is not. He was a superb draftsman and his color work was brilliant. There also is his subject matter, Phillips work in the Canadian Rockies "feels" better on me that the "arid" southwest of Bauman. I may also may prefer Phillips a bit more because of his beautiful watercolor work. So, it is a preference for Phillips' subject matter as well as my appreciation of the technique he used. Is a Granny Smith apple or a Cortland apple better? Who cares when both can be enjoyed by all. Joe ------------------------------ From: Wanda Robertson Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:21:17 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5044] Re: tapes Wait a minute here! What miniature woodblock prints? How miniature and by whom? More information please. Thanks, everyone, for the explanation of why you do/don't prefer Phillips over Baumann. I let you know what I think when I get the 2 Baumann books! ------------------------------ From: Wanda Robertson Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:25:41 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5045] Re: Baumann, Phillips & Haizobvski Georga, You can see Phillips' work at: http://www.sharecom.ca/phillips/ Still trying to find out something about Haizobvski. I personally have never heard of him. But there's lots of people I've never heard of.:-) Wanda ------------------------------ From: Barbara Mason Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:10:17 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5046] exchange print I am finally printing the exchange print and I remember someone saying they cleaned their plate between each printing with oil based ink. I find I am not having to clean the plate at all between prints. What am I doing differently than the person who is spending so much time cleaning????? I am using lithography ink mixed with 1/2 transparent base and about 10% setswell (which I know is more than the recommended amount) and I am printing the paper only twice. Perhaps printing more colors I will have more trouble. I am using Kitakata paper and it is printing so easily with my new baren (thank you Graham) that I wonder why I needed the press....(not really). Barbara ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:29:52 +0900 Subject: [Baren 5047] Re: tapes Judy wrote, re video tapes: > Thanks, and I'll pass them along asap. Please remember that we're trying to organize these pass around tapes and things with a web page at: http://woodblock.com/forum/passaroundlist.html Anybody sending or wanting to receive a tape, please use the form there to help keep things up to date. > I received the two tapes and LOVED the minature > woodblock prints that came with them. Prints? *** It's time for another update from 'Himi & Fumi Inc.'. The scanner has been smokin' again, and the Library in the Encyclopedia now contains _ten_ books on woodblock printmaking. This latest addition is also of interest to those who are involved with wood engraving, as it is a book on _both_ fields of woodblock printmaking - plank work, and end grain work. "How I Make Woodcuts and Wood Engravings" by Hans Alexander Mueller is ready for your perusal ... The book also was supplied by Tom Weideman. Thanks Tom! http://woodblock.com/encyclopedia/updates.html Dave ------------------------------ From: Sheryl Coppenger Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Baren 5048] now I've done it (boxwood question) Greetings, Not that I have time to do anything about this at the moment, but does anybody know a reference for preparation of boxwood for wood engraving? I happened to be at a hardwood lumber yard again (where I bought the cherry board I mentioned previously) and noticed that they had an 8/4 (2" thick) board marked "boxwood". I wasn't really supposed to be buying anything that day (went with a friend). But when I said to the guy helping the friend, "Oh, I didn't know you sold boxwood. Do you get a lot of it?" he said that they hadn't gotten any in ages and it was the only board in the whole place. So of course I had to have it. When I had priced prepared boxwood before it was ridiculous ($20 for a 1"x2" piece or something like that). So I figured I'd try "rolling my own" since the unfinished price for a "board foot" equaled about the price of a "board inch" finished. :-) I looked in the encyclopedia. The Mueller book had some general comments on how boxwood is prepared for engraving. One of the wood pages also mentioned that some baren members had used boxwood. So how about it guys? Did you use it for engraving or carving (end-grain or plank) and did you prepare it yourself? How did it work out? Enquiring minds... and all that. I figure preparing end-grain won't be too horrible if I do small pieces (like 2"x3") but gluing for a bigger end-grain piece could be a pain. There's a "scraping with a special tool" reference in Mueller I don't know about. The board is about 8" wide and 36" long. It's a nice straight piece except for a split through one corner. Looks like it's been knocking about for a while so I suspect it's good and dry. Sheryl Who is up entirely too late, has been enjoying the bagpipe jokes, and doesn't have a strong preference for Baumann or Phillips but wishes there weren't so many dead links on the Phillips site. :-) - -- Sheryl Coppenger ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V8 #637 ***************************