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Baren Digest                Sunday, 7 March 1999        Volume 06 : Number 477

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From: Gayle Wohlken <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 09:15:36 -0500
Subject: [Baren 3408] Re: Baren Digest V6 #476 

Ruth Leaf said:
>  Tape your paper to the press bed
> and flip it  away from the bed. 

Right on the bed, Ruth?  Not on the strips of board beside where
the board will go?  It seems the difference in height would put 
a crease in the paper.  When I hand burnish my prints and use
and el shaped register, I tape my paper to the registration board and
flip
it back, then it just falls over the block easily.  But I can't picture
taping the paper lower than the block.  Am I misunderstanding
your procedure?

Welcome to Baren!!!

Gayle Wohlken

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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 09:57:15 EST
Subject: [Baren 3409] Paper 

Dave, I was curious after seeing your video - what type of paper do you use
for your prints?  It seems much stiffer and whiter in color than the Japanese
paper which I've been using (nishinouchi) - 
Thanks-
Sarah Hauser

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From: "Bea Gold" <bnjgold@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 07:46:44 -0800
Subject: [Baren 3410] Re: Paper 

How do I get in line to see Dave's video?    How many people were part of
the print exchange?
What were the rules?  Is it written somewhere in the archives for me to see?
Fun to see you here on the Baren, Ruth - from Bea

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From: "Ray Esposito" <brassring@brassring.org>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:47:51 -0500
Subject: [Baren 3411] Re: Paper

Bea wrote:
>How do I get in line to see Dave's video?    How many people were part of
>the print exchange?

Bea

I would advise you to forget the first print exchange for now.  The next
exchange is most likely being planned by Dave and I suspect that there will
be changes based on what he learned from the first one.  The exciting thing
about number one will be when Dave gets his folio (which is up to the USPO)
and everyone who was not involved can get to see the fantastic work.  The
range of talent, ideas and approches is staggering and you will be
impressed.

I know you will want to jump in on the next one.  It's hard to be patient.
I was in the first one and am getting antsy about getting into the next.

Cheers
Ray

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From: "Ray Esposito" <brassring@brassring.org>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:51:47 -0500
Subject: [Baren 3412] Re:  prints 

Hideshi wrote:
>PAPER NAO
etc.

Hideshi

Thankl you for the info.   Before ordering from Japan I wonder if anyone
knows of this paper being sold in this country?

Cheers
Ray

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From: "Jean Eger" <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 08:53:08 -0800
Subject: [Baren 3413] Re:   Baren Digest V6 #476  

I am incredibly frustrated because
1. I haven't received the print exchange prints yet and I am hanging out by
the door and leaving little notes for the FedEx man every day. (I guess it
takes longer to get to California.)
2. I can't find the slide show on Dave's web site.  The last address you
gave for it, Dave, led to the bank of pictures of membeers.

Has anyone tried using the Japanese kento method of registration while
printing in a press?  That would eliminate all the registration gizmos.
You'd just have to start with a larger piece of wood, so the press rollers
would start on the wood.  People who like wide margins might not like it.
In hand printing, I have found the kento registration method to be more
accurate than the registration block.

Jean Eger

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From: "Ray Esposito" <brassring@brassring.org>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 12:34:37 -0500
Subject: [Baren 3414] Re:   Baren Digest V6 #476

>I am incredibly frustrated because
>1. I haven't received the print exchange prints yet and I am hanging out by
>the door and leaving little notes for the FedEx man every day. (I guess it
>takes longer to get to California.)

Anticipation is the fun part of all this.  Okay, so it's a crock.  This is
part of the penalty of living in la-la land.  :-))

>2. I can't find the slide show on Dave's web site.  The last address you
>gave for it, Dave, led to the bank of pictures of membeers.

Since it is 2am in Japan, I will answer for Dave.  The address is
http://www.woodblock.com/forum/slide_show.html  
I just cheked it out and it works fine.  If you still have a problem let me know.

Cheers
Ray

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From: "Jean D Parus" <ltz797@dreamscape.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 12:50:11 -0500
Subject: [Baren 3415] Re: Paper 

Video?!! What video ... is there a video available .... newbie wants to get
one ....

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From: <DARICH@prodigy.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 10:21:30 -0800
Subject: [Baren 3416] printing with press 

I was out of town yesterday when the portfolio was delivered.  Now I have
to wait until Monday and drive to the post office to receive it.  It really
is much anticipated.  

I to print on an etching press.  I don't use a frame to print.  I register
using a pin method (already described in the enc.)  The paper is placed on
top of the block and covered with one fairly thin blanket and run through
the press.  Embossing is not a problem unless the pressure is set to high. 
If I intend to emboss which is sometimes the case I use a thicker blanket.

Once again it seems there are as many ways to do a thing as there are
people to do it.

I'm sorry to hear that Universities are phasing out printmaking.

Andrea Rich

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From: Ruth Leaf <leafr@ecom.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 10:34:27 -0800
Subject: [Baren 3418] Printing woodblocks 

Jean! You can use any height blocks that you rollers will go over,  For
instance my press will accomadate cherry wood which I thinks is 3/4"
high.  I have strips  of wood that are the same height as the block and
if possible the same hardness as the wood you're using. The cherry would
is wonderful to cut .  I would love to use it all the time but it's
expensive and requires a lot of storage space,   I also use shina which
is easy to cut  easy to print it's 3/8 of an inch and its plywood.  I
know other artists use any plywood they can get but some of it is really
hard to cut and it tears. Try it you'll like it.  Ruth

D.Joseph!  The Intaglio book has never been out of print.  The paperback
dover put out is probably in it's 30th edition.
I know that intaglio printmaking is having a bad time.  People are
afraid of the chemicals and there are acidless etching plates.  But to
me there is nothing like a bitten plate it's a piece of sculpture that
you can print.
When I moved from Douglaston to Venice CA I gave up making the grounds.
The formula in the book is accurate and it's not hard to make.  The only
difficulty is that they no longer make ivory snow so that you have to
grind ivory soap bars very fine ( a food grinder will do it) and let it
dry out for a while.  It works. Ruth

Agatha! When I was teaching my motto was if it works do it. Ruth

Dave! Warped blocks are a problem and they would probably crack in an
etching press.  This is why plywood, cherry and other hard woods are
prefered.  I have however done woodcuts on pine and printed them in a
press.  If
you store the block flat they shouln't warp.  Ruth

James! I don't use blankets at all.  Any cheap board, about 3 ply is
fine and if you need more pressure you just add another board. Ruth

I want to thank you all for the discussion coming out of Baren.  I find
it useful and interesting....

Ruth

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