[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Tuesday, 2 February 1999 Volume 06 : Number 432 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray Esposito" Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:35:43 -0500 Subject: [Baren 2884] Matts art Matt Just saw your newest work thanks to Jean. I loved it. Congratulations. I also noticed a number of excellent woodblocks by other artist who are not on Baren. Should we invte them to join us? Keep up the excellent work. Cheers Ray ------------------------------ From: Jean Eger Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 13:46:14 -0800 Subject: [Baren 2885] Re: Baren Digest V6 #431 I always get Arches Cover and Arches 88 mixed up. Arches Cover is similar to BFK Rives. It's a good all-purpose paper for etching and woodblock printing. Arches 88 is very smooth and is mostly used for screen printing and monoprints. Correct me if I'm wrong. Jean Eger ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:45:58 -0600 Subject: [Baren 2886] site info Thanks Jean for the posting on the web-site showing Matt's print. I also noticed Daniel Kelly's prints included. Daniel ? Are you outhere lurking or did you drop off Baren ? It's being a while........... Could someone (Mary....) re-post the info on the Manitoba exhibition....the one with the details........I might one to participate with an entry as a latin-american country..... Thanks. JULIO ------------------------------ From: "Ray Esposito" Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:15:08 -0500 Subject: [Baren 2887] Re: site info Julio wrote: >Could someone (Mary....) re-post the info on the Manitoba exhibition....the one >with the details........I might one to participate >with an entry as a latin-american country..... Chicago has been called a lot of things but "a latin-american country"? Must be the northside. :-) Cheers and good luck Ray ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:23:19 -0800 Subject: [Baren 2888] Re: re PanAm Competition Mary. I have lost the details re this competion. Date deline etc etc I have a little one that should work. Regards, Graham ------------------------------ From: "Ray Esposito" Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:44:04 -0500 Subject: [Baren 2889] Re: re PanAm Competition Graham wrote: >I have a little one that should work. That's not what Marnie says. Cheers Ray ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:49:30 -0800 Subject: [Baren 2890] Re: re PanAm Competition >That's not what Marnie says. As soon as I sent it I knew....... ------------------------------ From: "Bea Gold" Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:52:55 -0800 Subject: [Baren 2891] paper from Mr. Art Ordered paper from Mr. Art - thanks for the tip Ray - 5 sheets each hosho, mulberry and arches 88 to see which I like best. Learned they do not have a catalog and only sell on line, though. ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:56:12 -0800 Subject: [Baren 2892] Re: Video!! Ray wrote: >Yes BUT....does anyone remember the Hit Parade on radio???? >Now THAT is showing your age and I do remember it. Thats a miracle in itself.... TOC Graham ------------------------------ Subject: [Baren 2893] Posting duplicated in error ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:09:29 -0800 Subject: [Baren 2894] Re: Blacker blacks ... Matt wrote.... >> P.S. Dave, did Graham get back to you on warm and cool blacks? Warm blacks >> tending to a reddish hue (deep inside that 'black hole'), cool tending to a >> bluish hue. Dave wrote.... >Well again, I don't want to seem dense on this, but it's just black. I >_do_ have some other types of sumi here, one called 'ao zumi' (blue >sumi), which when used quite thinly, _does_ look a bit bluish ... I've >also seen 'aka zumi' (red sumi) on the shelves, but have never tried Matt answer this for you Dave. Black is black except when it is colour. All blacks have a colour and the best way I can explain it to relate to the watercolour pigments put out by Winsor Newton... They have an Ivory Black which is achieved from carboned bone, it is cool (blue) hue. Lamp Black is achieved from carboned wood is a warm (red) hue. So ever since the four years of schooling on colour....... black is not black. This may explain why I don't have it in my palette. Mix it and you can go in either direction depending on the image. Graham ------------------------------ From: Matthew.W.Brown@VALLEY.NET (Matthew W Brown) Date: 02 Feb 99 01:28:43 EST Subject: [Baren 2895] Moonlighting Dave asked about the time of my post: >Doing a little 'moonlighting'? Haven't we had some wonderful moonlight recently? For myself, with two small kids, and wanting to save the good daylight time for stuff like working on prints and some of the other tasks, night-time often seems to be the time for the computer's cathode rays. Others find this too? Matt (Not to mention the fact that the connections are much better. On my server there are many days starting around 8 in the morning and going till 10 at night when one is lucky just to get on, and lucky to not get disconnected every now and again, everything goes much slower, of course your phone is tied up . . . Seems like I must not be the only one finding this internet is a bit of a 'middle of the night' type of deal.) ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:45:40 +0900 Subject: [Baren 2896] Re: Blacker blacks ... Graham wrote: > Black is black except when it is colour. All blacks have a colour ... I can't argue with you guys on this, and yes I know that black can be a colour. As I mentioned, I sometimes use a black known as 'aozumi' (blue sumi), and in fact used it for the outlines on my exchange print. But the black I get from this concentrate is so deep, that my eyes go funny when I look at it ... I guess there are so few light particles being reflected, that it's actually hard to perceive the surface I am looking at. So it just doesn't seem to have much meaning to use words like 'red' or 'blue' when talking about it. Actually, I get the same thing when I work with a bowl full of pure indigo. I know it's blue, but it is such a deep blue in the bowl that almost nothing comes back out to my eye, and it's impossible to gauge the proper 'mix' ... *** Just got back a few minutes ago from the big woodyard at 'kiba'. I rode back on the truck that delivered the plank I bought. It's three metres long, about 80cm wide, and was 120cm thick. We took it over to a sawmill and had it sliced into four boards about 27mm thick, and then swabbed a solution of white glue over all the newly exposed faces, and pasted sheets of newsprint on them, to help slow the drying. The four planks are now stacked on my balcony, where they will rest for the next couple of years while they slowly dry out. I'll be restacking them two or three times a year, to help them dry evenly. This board was the most fantastic piece of cherry I've ever seen, and the guys at the sawmill said they had never seen one that clean and clear before. Now I've got two years in which to really learn how to use a place. I sure wish I had watched Shimano-san a little bit more closely when I visited him each time ... Dave ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:59:36 +0900 Subject: [Baren 2897] Oops! > Now I've got two years in which to really learn how to use a place. I > sure wish I had watched Shimano-san a little bit more closely when I > visited him each time ... I mean '... how to use a plane ...' But you figured that out, didn't you? Dave P.S. I also took my camera with me this afternoon, and have just put up a few snaps I had a chance to take while we worked on the plank ... http://www.woodblock.com/encyclopedia/updates.html ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V6 #432 ***************************