[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Tuesday, 26 January 1999 Volume 06 : Number 424 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elizabeth Atwood Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:07:29 -0400 Subject: [Baren 2797] New Member Welcome, Bea....... So delighted to hear that you have joined Baren, one of life's great experiences, and that you add to the numbers of us "older" members. (Art Students League....did you perchance know Maude Olsen....among others....I know so many that were there when you were.) I envy your opportunity to have studied with Will Barnet. Last week, we went down to Portland Art Museum to catch the Will Barnet show. His line composition is beautiful.....always an inspiration. Perhaps, because my training is in architecture, I am a "line" artist and appreciator. Enjoy the group........Eliz. Atwood ------------------------------ From: Bea Gold Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:09:52 -0800 Subject: [Baren 2798] Re: New Member Thank you for the welcome - we saw his work last year at he NY Academy. Beautiful simplicity. I didn't know Maude Olsen. Do you know when she was there? ------------------------------ From: Bea Gold Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:19:06 -0800 Subject: [Baren 2799] Re: Forwarded message from new member ... Graham wrote: >Welcome to the group. I just looked at your web page - I want one! Why would a kid like you talk about mistakes? ------------------------------ From: James G Mundie Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:59:54 -0500 Subject: [Baren 2800] drills, methyl cellulose Marco wrote: >Has anybody tried to carve the wood with a fine drill for woodworking? >Does it leave deckeled edges on the lines it carves? Any info? Marco, do mean something like a dremel tool? I haven't used one of these on plank grain, but I know that many woodengravers use an electric dremel tool to make marks and textures in endgrain blocks. I suppose the mark would depend on two factors: your control over the tool and the sharpness of the bit. A dremel can vibrate like crazy and takes a bit of practice to use without telltale wobbliness in your resulting lines. However, you might find that sort of look appealing depending on the image. I've known some to use this tool for drypoint, too. *** Marco also asked April if she used methyl cellulose instead of rice paste because it would not mold. The fact is, methyl cellulose (at least the stuff you mix yourself from powder) can and will mold under certain conditions. In the hot moist months of the year, I've often had to discard jars of methyl cellulose I had mixed days before for some project or other. I suspect this mold may have been lingering in the moist air or been in the water used to prepare the mixture. Great stuff, but when it goes "off"... whoa, Nellie! Sla/n agaibh, James Mundie, Philadelphia USA ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne N. Chase" Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:59:56 -0500 Subject: [Baren 2801] Re: New Member Welcome Maude With all of your experience I am sure that you will be a great participating member of the Group. It is like one big family here, with Graham being our Father figure, wise and all knowing! Seriously, it is a great group to be associated with and am sure you will be a happy camper Look forward to sharing some good advice from you. A lot of us, mainly me, really need it. Jeanne ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne N. Chase" Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:58:56 -0500 Subject: [Baren 2802] Re: New Member Whooops , I meant welcome Bea. Jeanne ------------------------------ From: Sheryl Coppenger Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:47:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Baren 2803] exchange Greetings, I haven't read the list in a few weeks. Looks like you guys have been busy. There are hundreds of messages in the box the baren messages get sorted to. Hope I get some time to catch up one of these days. Most folks are aware of my surgery over the summer, I was in a cast when I said I'd participate in the exchange. Unfortunately I didn't get back in form as soon as I thought I would (and truth be told, I did my share of procrastinating as well). So this month when some more health challenges hit me and there was a death in my circle of friends I didn't have any "wiggle room" on finishing an exchange print. The health challenges are not life-threatening and I'm recovering, but they have been debilitating and there just isn't any way I can get 29 finished prints delivered next week. I apologize profusely for letting people down. If anyone decided too late they wanted a box, I've ordered a box I won't be needing and we can work something out. Otherwise I'll work shipment out with the coordinators. If you need to send me email about any of this, please send it directly to sheryl@seas.gwu.edu instead of posting to the list. My filter sends anything sent to the baren address directly to a separate inbox and it still may be a while before I get back into reading that mail. Sheryl Coppenger ------------------------------ From: Mariten@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:46:29 EST Subject: [Baren 2804] Re: books & drill-carving >From Maria in Las Vegas, NV I sent you all the good weather and now we're having storms! Wow, is this what humidity feels like? To all bookfinders, have you tried barnesandnoble.com? They have pretty good searches by subject and list available in print or out of print books and many additional sources (other than Barnes & Noble) for used and old library books (condition of book included). I got my hands on a rare E. Munch woodcuts book and a very expensive but precious Chinese Landscape woodcuts. MARCO: Re Baren #2778 I have before used a fine-drill for carving; I'm assuming you mean a rotary tool? The one I use has an extension which "feels" like a heavy pen, gives you much control over the cut, and saves your hand from the vibration. My problem is that I didn't really care for the marks that it produces, so I use it very rarely when I need to clear out very large areas of wood. It is also difficult to control the cut at first, so practice on a cheap piece of wood. The rotary tool leaves a "burrowy" mark like a channel a worm would leave; other attachments leave larger areas. Sharp bits cut clean through even hard woods on the high-speed settings and there are many bits to choose from. I have seen a student do a 8 foot by 4 foot piece with a rotary tool only to find that there was no press that could handle such a print; the carved piece looked good, though! For me, like I said, I felt the carve marks didn't have the "personality" of the hand tools so I don't use it except for clearing, which it does fast and clean. Let me know how you come out. Greetings and thanks to all, your exchange of information is priceless. Maria ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V6 #424 ***************************