[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Saturday, 16 January 1999 Volume 06 : Number 414 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jimandkatemundie@juno.com (James G Mundie) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:07:57 -0500 Subject: [Baren 2695] choosing which prints make up your edition Roger raised some concerns as to which of his many tries he should label as his edition for the exchange... This may have been mentioned already, but typically an edition isn't numbered and signed until all of the prints have been pulled and all those not 'up to the mark' have been discarded. Keeping the prints in the actual order in which they were pulled is only necessary during printing, to keep the block's and paper's expansion rate even for correct registration through the edition. As each print in an edition is theoretically identical to each other print, it really doesn't matter that the print you mark as "22" was really the third to come off the blocks. This is why it is always so funny that certain collectors insist on having the 'low' numbers. My stipulation that prints from limited editions submitted to the exchange should represent the first twenty-nine prints from the edition merely meant, "Give us numbers 1 to 29," not, "Give us the first twenty-nine prints as were chronologically taken from the blocks in their exact order." I haven't had a chance to look at your examples yet, Roger, but if your hundred or so prints thus far are all reasonably alike (same colors from the same blocks) you could always leave this particular print as an open edition and not bother to number it at all. Chi/fi/dh me/ sibh, James Mundie, Philadelphia USA ------------------------------ From: jimandkatemundie@juno.com (James G Mundie) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:51:26 -0500 Subject: [Baren 2696] mailing instructions for exchange participants MAILING INSTRUCTIONS FOR EXCHANGE PARTICIPANTS: The time has arrived to think about sending your prints to me for the collation and eventual return of the first [Baren] exchange folio. As you may all remember, the deadline for everyone's prints is 1 February 1999. No need to panic if your prints don't arrive until the 2nd or 3rd, but please try and have them arrive as close to the deadline as possible. If all goes smoothly and everyone's prints arrive reasonably 'on time', all of you lucky exchange participants should have your own copies in your hands no later than the second week of February. HOW: Everyone will need to send their prints in a sturdy REUSABLE carton -- this is imperative as the way I receive your package will be the way it will be returned to you. Likewise, whatever method of delivery you choose (regular mail, UPS, FedEx, etc.) will be the way your package is returned to you. For those of you who ordered a case from David's boxmaker, the _interior dimension_ of your shipping carton must be at least 418mm (16 1/2 inches) high, 283mm (11 1/8 inches) wide, and 25mm (1 inch) deep. Please allow a little extra room for bubble wrap or similar packing material. It is recommended that in order for your prints to arrive in pristine condition -- that is not smudged, bent or otherwise damaged -- you place them between two untextured rigid boards (mat board or smooth masonite will work far better than corrugated cardboard) slightly larger than the printed sheets and taped together at the edges. Or, you may do what Hideshi was wise to do -- construct a sturdy little carton like a book with two sheets of mat board and four light strips of wood deep enough to accommodate the prints around the edges. Whatever your choice, it is important that your package be strong enough to withstand the rigors of shipping without damage to the contents. Also, if you desire glassine to be interleaved with your image for its protection, include it in your package. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***IMPORTANT*** Please include the COST OF RETURN SHIPPING with your package. I am not financially able to cover the cost of everyone's postage, so you will need to enclose the cost of return if you want your prints. A cheque or money order is fine; the appropriate value of stamps will also work. Or, if you choose to ship via FedEx, UPS or similar shipper, I can easily return the package to you charged to your account or "receiver". I realize this may be a little more complicated for those of you outside the United States, where the cost of shipping _from_ your country might be different than the cost of shipping _to_ your country. In that case, you can reimburse me for the cost of my returning your package after you have received it... but this offer only extends to participants outside the United States! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< WHERE: You may send your prints via regular mail or other shipper to the following address: James Mundie c/o the Samuel Fleisher Art Memorial 709-721 Catharine Street Philadelphia PA 19147 USA (if you choose to send via FedEx, you will also need the phone number, which is 215-922-3456) WHEN: Please send your prints to arrive as near as possible to 1 February 1999. ****** Good luck finishing up, everybody! I look forward to opening all of those boxes! Mise le meas, James Mundie, Philadelphia USA ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:09:22 -0600 Subject: [Baren 2697] re:additional questions for James James writes: "The time has arrived to think about sending your prints to me for the collation and eventual return of the first [Baren] exchange folio....." I know Dave is doing the colophon page, but, are we not suppose to send you info on the print as far as techincal data (number of blocks, colors, paper brand, etc) to be distributed to each recipient ? Is there a format for all to follow ? Or do we just do our thing ? Will this be in the format of of like an index card ? I need help here. Also, I won't be mailing (FedEx) till about the 23rd-25th...that should give it enough time to go from Chicago to Philly right ? Thanks. JULIO (starting to defrost in the midwest!) ------------------------------ From: Becky or Roger Ball Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:29:42 -0700 Subject: [Baren 2698] wow, lots Thanks to Jake, Graham, Jeanne, and others for real gems of ideas on my editoning questions. The stupid thing about this I realized last night when I jumped on the tedious recordkeeping bandwagon, --I need to finish the thing before I edition it. To answer a couple of questions briefly (and I do appreciate hearing the proper terminology--'cause I don't know it!): I think it is important to be as honest with any numbering of the prints as we possible can if we choose to number, and that is why I toyed with foregoing numbers. The "B.A.T." will be my number 1 and I number the good ones from there on, in sequence. But onward, I need to get more than the 47 I currently believe I am keeping before tossing out the bottom end and I _am_ absolutely in favor of burning. Uniformity is something better decided in the end and it does boil down to a pride issue on what to put out. My true "B.A.T." was at 40 I discovered last night. Luckily I started getting near 90% keepers at impression 80. I'm trying for 80-100 prints. Planning for 6 A/P's (vibrant, hairy and patchy included) and 3 what I call preliminary proofs. Graham wrote.... >Roger wrote.... >>I don't see why I can't label the "unacceptable" >>(unacceptable to me!) prints as AP and number only the ones I like. I did not say this. Jake did. And I was under the understanding that we all agreed that the first 29 of the edition go to the exchange. Jake, there are previous discussions on wood to be found in the list archives at http://www.woodblock.com/forum/archives/archives.html How many test prints would you pros typically have to run to proof 6 blocks? Print! - -Roger ------------------------------ From: Becky or Roger Ball Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:47:08 -0700 Subject: [Baren 2699] the other question Back to this other question, now that I've looked at http://www.woodblock.com/forum/exchange.html I think I need to ask again if all intend to include a sheet or half sheet of info on the artist and edition info or do we intend to put that kind of stuff in the "comments" section that Dave is offering? Or is Dave offering? I mean, "Roger A. Ball West Jordan, Utah Bumblebee and Henbane Six impressions Rising Stonehenge Warm White" isn't very much info. Ideas? Cheers to a long weekend! I get MLK day off! May your paper be soft yet firm, - -Roger ------------------------------ From: Gary Luedtke Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:39:56 -0500 Subject: [Baren 2700] Exhibition update ... Dave, Congratulations on your successful show! I don't think any of us in Baren had any doubts about the outcome, but then we know you a little better than the casual passerby. I'm glad your next venture seems to be starting out so well too. It appears there's life left in the attraction of well-made prints to the public eye, and that's wonderful to hear. We raise our glasses to you. Somebody mentioned Ray was not feeling well. Ray, if you're tuned in out there, I hope you're feeling better soon! Let us know how you're doing. Welcome to all new members. The new year and Dave's absence seem to increase our family size, I'm not sure which of those things we might attribute this to! Dave will have a ton of things to plow thru to get up- to- date. Good luck Dave! I look forward to further details of your recent activities. Gary ------------------------------ From: "Michelle D. Hudson" Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:48:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Baren 2701] print exchange questions James, (This is from RayH in Vermont) I'm not certain of the final number of prints to send. Is it 29? And, after 709-721 Catharine Street--what comes next? Is it Philadelphia and the ZIP is? Many thanks in advance for all your work! Ray H ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V6 #414 ***************************