[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Monday, 7 September 1998 Volume 04 : Number 267 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Esposito Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 13:10:18 -0400 Subject: [Baren 1535] Re: Hello and Green Drop Daniel wrote: > Hello to all of you. I am Daniel Kelly and live in Kyoto. I make >woodblock prints, and various forms of mixed media prints. Daniel Welcome to Baren. We look forward to learning from you Cheers Ray Esposito ------------------------------ From: Gayle Wohlken Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 09:39:03 -0400 Subject: [Baren 1536] Re: Baren Digest V4 #266 Baren, Ray wrote, regarding the artists co-op/gallery Elisa and her friends operate: > You are to be congratulated for supporting unknown artists. They supported me, Ray. I just got back from Danbury and opening night for September's show. What a turnout of people! Elisa did a beautiful job of hanging the show. Her design sense is admirable, as is the design in her own woodblock prints. I understand Ray's objections as far as the folio goes. But I'm with showing them and I tend to agree with Elisa about the dirty hands. It seems Opening Night at her gallery wouldn't be practical with gloves and one person at a time looking. As far as the pieces getting lost over the years, wouldn't Elisa, when the month was over, put everything back as it should be? Ray, these are an idealistic group of young people. Their hearts are in the right place. My husband and I were impressed with them. Couldn't we all agree to handle this Baren Exchange of prints with the respect they deserve, and if showing them, make certain they don't get lost, out of place, or damaged. Couldn't that be our agreed upon and shared responsibility? My two cents, Gayle Wohlken ------------------------------ From: Elizabeth Atwood Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 10:14:40 -0500 Subject: [Baren 1537] Re: Hello and Green Drop Daniel wrote: > In viewing your archives I noticed that some of you are trying Green >Drop Inks. This product is excellent. Welcome, Daniel Kelly. Thank you for the information on the Green Drop inks. As a user of oil-base ink, I am looking forward to the results of other members' experience......and interest..... in these inks.......... Bettie ------------------------------ From: gscholes@islandnet.com Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 08:59:23 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 1538] Big Daddies Watching Ray wrote...... > Having said all of that.......let me just add that it's probably way too > early to start worrying about such things...but it's ok to dream about > them. I am using one of those pane computers.....you know Windoz... and it is the most awkward think I have ever experienced. There has been some good stuff up for discussion in the past week and I regret I can't contribute. On the bit (Ray Wrote above) I have to concurr 100% > ps. Since Graham is out-of-town........ Yea .... but I'm watching over you guys....especially you Ray. Graham .... from Lethbridge the wind capital of the world. ------------------------------ From: gscholes@islandnet.com Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 09:17:09 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 1539] Re: Folio 1999 - Part II Ray wrote > I realize and appreciate I am in the minority here but I wanted to express > my views and look forward to hearing from others. Your explanation re the Folio is beautifully put..... Right on the money..... We will stand back to back on this one. Oh and one other thing....glad you are back and at it full tilt. Graham ------------------------------ From: Ray Esposito Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 20:22:21 -0400 Subject: [Baren 1540] Re: Folio 1999 - Part II Graham wrote: >We will stand back to back on this one. Have you noticed you and I USUALLY stand alone on these things????? >Oh and one other thing....glad you are back and at it full tilt. I have a feeling you are in a very small minority here. :-)>>>> Cheers Ray Esposito ------------------------------ From: Daniel Kelly Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 15:22:18 +0000 Subject: [Baren 1541] Tokuriiki David wrote: > Then that makes two, or perhaps even three, of his proteges here. Is he > still active, by the way? He must be nearly 200 years old by now, > surely ... Who are you other three out there and when were you at Tokuriiki's. We must already know each other. NO? The sad truth is that the old master who helped to start the book Han with Munakata is now 97 but has stopped painting. I last saw him last summer (97). He was busy painting wonderful child like direct images in sumi. He smiled at me with a white skinned toothless innocence when I showed him my new woodblock prints. He could barely talk. I cried when I left his house knowing the truth. This summer his granddaughter worked in my studio. She told me he didn't recognize her. He is not in the CWAJ catalogue this year. Some of you may think that the Asian technique of wood block is alive and kickin over here. Its not. Students of Japanese art schools prefer to study etching, litho, performance or what ever... but not that old stuff that grandfather liked. The cellular phone and the bullet bike are the essentials of today's students. The man who supplied wood for the carvers is no longer south of Shi jo. Monju, the most famous carver in Kyoto hasn't really been replaced since his death. Nakngawa, the head of the printing association for Kyoto doesn't print much any more... he in his 70's. Why the most famous artist internationally from Japan makes digitally enhanced photo prints ,(Morimura) This not a lament so much as an admission of the state of classic Japanese woodblock prints in a digital world. I believe there has long been more interest from outside Japan than here. After all there was not a museum devoted to the W/B print in all of Japan until the 80's. Daniel ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V4 #267 ***************************