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Baren Digest              Tuesday, 11 August 1998      Volume 04 : Number 242

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From: <DARICH@prodigy.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:25:38 -0700
Subject: [Baren 1363] paper question 

Like Haydee I have never heard of seen or used Oban paper.  If we are going
to use this paper for the echange someone will have to mention an address
or phone number where it can be ordered.  Please post if you know.

Andrea 

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From: Sheryl Coppenger <sheryl@seas.gwu.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:59:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Baren 1364] Re: paper question 

My understanding (hope?) is that Oban is used as a reference for size, that
we can use any paper of our choice as long as it is archival and in Oban
size.

This is my official "I'm in" notice.  I'll probably be doing a B&W print,
possibly with chine colle' added, in oil-based ink on a sturdy paper 
like BFK or Somerset.

Sheryl Coppenger    

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From: Don Furst <furstd@UNCWIL.EDU>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:05:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Baren 1365] Re: Final decision 

Jim wrote:
>As of this moment, participation interest stands at nineteen.

James, make that twenty, as I am eager to throw my hat (block) into the
ring.    

Don Furst

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@islandnet.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:43:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 1366] Printing press 

A while back I mentioned the availability of printing press.

Here it is again in case anybody out there wants to take advantage of the
obscenely LOW Canadian buck.

The Info is:

Patrick Designs
426 Torrence Rd
Comox, BC
V9M 3L8

Voice 250 339 3109
Fax    250 339 8196
E-Mail  danpat@comox.island.net

They have a brochure with prices.

I have talked to several owners of these presses.
One person has had 3 of Dan's presses over the years.....she is getting on
in age and has been downsizing....is the reason for owning several.  She
has been very satisfied and can recommend them fully

The other contact is a professor (David MacLean) at North Island College in
Comox who informed me about these presses. They have used them for ..I
think 8 years, in the printmaking dept and recommend them highly.  The kids
have put them the press through the paces over these years and have stood
up very well.  I was talking David this June and he said they have changed
the bed from the High Density Fibre Board with Melemine Laminate to a steel
bed.  After the heavy use at the college this last 8 years it was time.
Dan offers steel beds....don't know the price. I don't see the need of it
for a personal use situation, unless you are going to do a heck of a lot of
work.

It sound like the Government here is going to do something to restore the
confidence in the $ so I think you should act quickly.

Happy shopping

Graham

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@islandnet.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:03:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 1367] Oban Paper Size 

There seems to be confusion about Oban

The word refers to a paper size. It has nothing to do with type of paper.

Here is the size that I have taken from a reference book from the Art
Gallery of Victoria.

OBAN  Standard print size approx 15" x 10" (39 x 26cm)
I understand this can vary 1/2" bigger.

I suggest we set the size at 15" x 10" (39 x 26cm) and do not go for the
bigger variation.
If someone has bigger paper they can cut it down.

Graham

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From: <DARICH@prodigy.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:48:25 -0700
Subject: [Baren 1368] oban 

Thanks for the education.  I think I'll use hosho for my print
contribution. Now that I have decided that I'll start thinking about
subjects.

Andrea

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From: "Haydee Landing" <hlanding@coqui.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 22:03:07 -0400
Subject: [Baren 1369] Re: oban 

Thanks for the education, too. Then will be OK if an artist use Rives BFK,
other chiri or hosho.  Some printed by hand other by press. 

Haydee

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From: Phil Bivins <pbivins@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 22:26:39 -0400
Subject: [Baren 1370] Re: Final decision 

James, count me in for the portfolio group.

Thanks, Phil

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From: Phil Bivins <pbivins@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 22:46:08 -0400
Subject: [Baren 1371] I have the Video 

I just received Dave's video from Julio today. I have the address for John
Amoss and Ray. I need to have Jean's and Gayle's snail mail address. The
next stop for the video will be John then Ray and ....... until it gets
back to Dave. So, if you want to get on the list please email me with your
address and you will be counted in. Thanks
Phil

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@islandnet.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:32:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 1372] Re: oban 

Andrea wrote:
>Thanks for the education.  I think I'll use hosho for my print
>contribution. Now that I have decided that I'll start thinking about
>subjects.

Looking back it has been a little confusing.  Glad to help
Good you decided on hosho paper.  I have use others and they ain't 1,2,3,
to Hosho.

Graham

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@islandnet.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:39:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 1373] Re: oban 

Haydee wrote:
>Thanks for the education, too. Then will be OK if an artist use Rives BFK,
>other chiri or hosho.  Some printed by hand other by press. 

Haydee
You saw my posting to Andrea so won't repeat here.
Use any archival (acid free or Neutral ph) paper you want. The image is
what is important.

Graham

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From: Jean Eger <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 00:05:02 -0700
Subject: [Baren 1374] Re: archival paper covering 

Dear Dave,
Whether or not paper is archival (acid-free) is a big deal around these
parts.  At least that's what we were taught at San Francisco State U.  I
like to avoid the wrath of my mentors in this respect.  We mat prints in
museum board which costs nearly twice as much as regular mat board.  That's
because regular mat board will yellow the paper it sits on top of, after a
few years.  However, I think I know the kind of case/box you are talking
about and they are very attractive and reasonable in price.  Maybe if they
are covered with silk, that's archival.

Welcome Patsy, your writing is enjoyable reading.  I wish I coud see your
prints.

Oban is a SIZE of paper, not a kind of paper.  It is the traditional size
that Ukiyo-e prints were made on, I think. Dave, correct me if I'm wrong
about that.  I guess that is important to collectors because if you get an
ancient Japanese print that is not on Oban size paper, you might be
suspicious that it's a fake.  The little Japanese gift store in Berkeley
sells Japanese prints by Hiroshige for $150.  I forgot to check if it was
Oban size or not.  Probably an original Hiroshige would cost more than
$150, however.
Sincerely,

Jean Eger

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